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re: Mainieri answers Coleman pitching at Georgia
Posted on 4/7/09 at 9:54 am to TigerBait1127
Posted on 4/7/09 at 9:54 am to TigerBait1127
I played against several semi-pro baseball teams back in the day, so obviously I'm more qualified than the rest of you when it comes to analyzing this situation. After careful consideration I've come to the conclusion that I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other at this point...
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Posted on 4/7/09 at 9:54 am to TigerBait1127
Suprise, Suprise! PM had a reason for putting Coleman in. He hasn't all of a sudden forgotten how to coach winning baseball.
Who woulda thunk it?
Who woulda thunk it?
Posted on 4/7/09 at 9:56 am to Choctaw
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Maybe some people will finally realize the Maneiri knows what hell he's doing.
Just by reading some of the responses in this thread, I don't think they realize Mainieri knows what he is doing.
The "rant coaches" have stated what they didn't agree with PM in the past because some of his decisions didn't make conventional baseball sense. Well, if every coach followed conventional baseball sense, then why pay them so much money. We could hire any joe blow of the street and have him just refer to the conventional baseball sense manual. Nothing would separate one coach from another.
These coaches that have made it to the top of their profession have done so because they are different than the other 99% of coaches. They don't necessarily make the same decisions as the others. It's what separates them from everyone else. They are going to make decisions that won't necessarily be the same as joe blow. That's why joe blow is posting on the rant and Mainieri is taking home tons of money to ACTUALLY make the decisions that lead teams to the CWS.
If every coach used conventional baseball sense, then the game would have never evolved. This goes for football and all sports in general. These coaches don't always think like we do, they are where they are because they out-smart/maneuver the opposition.
As for this specific situation, I am pretty sure Perno would have loved Mainieri if he had brought in the other pithers behind Coleman in the 6th and had 4 innings to get back into the game instead of just the 9th when they got 3 runs off our other releivers. And at that point, Mainieri would not have had the services of Coleman to stop the bleeding.
This post was edited on 4/7/09 at 10:00 am
Posted on 4/7/09 at 9:58 am to TigersRuleTheEarth
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Suprise, Suprise! PM had a reason for putting Coleman in. He hasn't all of a sudden forgotten how to coach winning baseball.
Who woulda thunk it?
what was said in this thread that wasn't already known.
it still wasn't a good baseball move IMO
Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:03 am to TigerBait1127
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what was said in this thread that wasn't already known.
it still wasn't a good baseball move IMO
I don't think Perno would agree with you.
And by the way, I don't think your opinion matters one bit to Mainieri. He explained why he did what he did and it makes complete sense.
This post was edited on 4/7/09 at 10:06 am
Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:04 am to TigerBait1127
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btw, i don't remember 1/2 the people being on the in-game threads last season during the losing streak.
indicator of a true fan there...you post on tigerdroppings game threads!!!!!!
for real though, i appreciate mainieri answering questions about coleman...i definitely understand where he's coming from but now the only thing to second guess is why was coleman even warming up in the first place
Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:06 am to TigerBait1127
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it still wasn't a good baseball move IMO
Well, you have the right to disagree, but the results speak for themselves.
I'm sure another reliever could have been brought in and UGA could have scored another 5 runs, but what it all boils down to is that PM made the right decision and the Rant didn't...like usual.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:07 am to LSUzealot
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why was coleman even warming up in the first place
It's not uncommon for a pitcher to get work in even when he isn't slated to relieve.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:15 am to TigersRuleTheEarth
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but what it all boils down to is that PM made the right decision
Then why did he say he won't do it again?
Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:15 am to JustSmokin
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Then why did he say he won't do it again?
AHHHHHHHHHHH!
I'm going pull my hair out.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:16 am to TigersRuleTheEarth
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It's not uncommon for a pitcher to get work in even when he isn't slated to relieve.
I could understand the "getting work in" theory if he's throwing during a weekday game. No way he was "getting work in" on the weekend. He was warming up to enter the game in this instance.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:24 am to mikethetiger
Skipping through what I am sure is a pee pee contest...
How about this? Let Coleman be used in an as needed role against god-awful Tennessee when they come into town in two weekends. Let him have that series as a counterbalancing rest. Thoughts? Or am I now an idiot too? Or...perhaps I have always been?
How about this? Let Coleman be used in an as needed role against god-awful Tennessee when they come into town in two weekends. Let him have that series as a counterbalancing rest. Thoughts? Or am I now an idiot too? Or...perhaps I have always been?
Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:25 am to wilfont
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I could understand the "getting work in" theory if he's throwing during a weekday game. No way he was "getting work in" on the weekend. He was warming up to enter the game in this instance.
Some don't get it. They think pitchers have bullpen workouts less than 18 hours before their scheduled start.
Even after Mainieri explained it wasn't bullpen work, they still want to claim it was.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:25 am to wilfont
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I could understand the "getting work in" theory if he's throwing during a weekday game. No way he was "getting work in" on the weekend. He was warming up to enter the game in this instance
What if he was getting work in because he was supposed to pitch two days from Friday?
Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:27 am to mikethetiger
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I don't think Perno would agree with you.
? Perno said he disagreed with what PM did
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I don't think your opinion matters one bit to Mainieri.
you think?
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He explained why he did what he did and it makes complete sense.
Coleman is too valuable to come in up 8 runs, especially with the pitching staff we have.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:30 am to LSUzealot
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indicator of a true fan there...you post on tigerdroppings game threads!!!!!!
it was funny how everyone came out of the woodwork during that run
Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:30 am to TigersRuleTheEarth
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What if he was getting work in because he was supposed to pitch two days from Friday?
Then PM would have said so. He got Coleman up when the game was 5-0. When it went to 8-0 he knew Coleman might not be the right move but didn't want to waste him since he was hot. This was not a case of Coleman throwing between games.
Honestly I would have a bigger problem with PM if he thought he had to insert Coleman because he was getting work in during the game. That would make zero sense.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:30 am to mikethetiger
To have a guy like Coleman whose delivery puts high stress on his elbow throw 150+ pitches in one weekend just isn't a good idea. Even if it makes tactical sense, you're just begging for something bad to happen. It's straight out of the Dusty Baker school of pitching management. It worked out well this time, but I wouldn't really like to see it again.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:31 am to TigerBait1127
let...it....go....
Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:33 am to CAD703X
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let...it....go....
great post
i've let it go, but you can go frick yourself if you'd like.
its the rant and i'm stuck at work, what else am i going to post about?
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