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re: LSU's True Freshman
Posted on 7/6/11 at 10:07 am to TxTiger82
Posted on 7/6/11 at 10:07 am to TxTiger82
Well yeah, its all speculation about a guy who hasn't suited up yet, but there are certain things that project him there. The main reason is who is ahead of him on the depth chart, and the strong possibility of Collins signing this year. Plus, Collins has the hips of a corner, and great closing /recovery speed. Not to say he couldn't be a good safety, but his lean build is years away at being one at LSU IMO. I think he projects at corner, all the way around.
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Posted on 7/6/11 at 11:21 am to Lester Earl
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as far as carries, maybe 20-30 all year
I don't know if Ford even got that many carries last year.
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Hilliard has 25-30lbs on Ford and Blue. prob a good 10lbs on Ware.
Yeah, I thought they might try to slim him down a little. I wonder if they will try him some as a FB like they did with Addai.
Posted on 7/6/11 at 11:27 am to Suntiger
Ford had 45
but 5 RBs overall had over 20.
we lose Ridley and Murphy
leaves us with Ware, Ford, Blue
then there is still confusion if Gore is a WR or a RB. Either way, he is not a back that will steal touches from a guy like Hilliard.
but 5 RBs overall had over 20.
we lose Ridley and Murphy
leaves us with Ware, Ford, Blue
then there is still confusion if Gore is a WR or a RB. Either way, he is not a back that will steal touches from a guy like Hilliard.
Posted on 7/6/11 at 11:59 am to Lester Earl
It should really be a no Brainer.
Hilliard won't pussyfoot up to the line on short yardage like *cough* mr leesville.
I think Ford can do some great things, but I think
we may see KH third in red zone runs this season behind ware and JJ
Hilliard won't pussyfoot up to the line on short yardage like *cough* mr leesville.
I think Ford can do some great things, but I think
we may see KH third in red zone runs this season behind ware and JJ
Posted on 7/6/11 at 12:11 pm to Lester Earl
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then there is still confusion if Gore is a WR or a RB. Either way, he is not a back that will steal touches from a guy like Hilliard.
I would bet a lot of money that Gore gets more carries than Hilliard... a lot more
Posted on 7/6/11 at 12:17 pm to Bonjourno
I dont see any reason for Hilliard to play this year. We have a young RB corps and Ware has pretty much established himself as a starter with Ford being able to spell him primarily and Gore coming in for a more burst type of RB. If Ford or Ware get hurt Blue can replace either one.
Give Hilliard a redshirt and get an extra year between him and Ware/Ford.
Give Hilliard a redshirt and get an extra year between him and Ware/Ford.
This post was edited on 7/6/11 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 7/6/11 at 12:31 pm to thunderbird1100
Why redshirt hilliard? Hilliard offers something we Don't have On roster... A power back.
Magee should RS, KH not so much.
Ware will need a breather sometimes during short yardage.
Hilliard is our largest RB, and he will drop his pads
and lay the wood. He is a Les miles back.
Magee runs like ware. Hilliard is a bruiser. Gore will be stealing blues carries, and unless he steps his game up, fords too. Hilliard fills an instant need. He is a one of a kind back on this roster.
Magee should RS, KH not so much.
Ware will need a breather sometimes during short yardage.
Hilliard is our largest RB, and he will drop his pads
and lay the wood. He is a Les miles back.
Magee runs like ware. Hilliard is a bruiser. Gore will be stealing blues carries, and unless he steps his game up, fords too. Hilliard fills an instant need. He is a one of a kind back on this roster.
Posted on 7/6/11 at 12:36 pm to BigEdLSU
I don't think Hilliard redshirts if he's physically ready. I think he'll play on special teams and maybe get some clean up carries. I don't think they would go to him over Ware in a short yardage situation though
Posted on 7/6/11 at 12:37 pm to BigEdLSU
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Why redshirt hilliard?
Are you kidding me? Because we have FOUR runningbacks who are either a SO. or rFR. Whats the point in log-jamming the position that much with 5 guys now who will be within 1 class of each other. Give Hilliard a redshirt and get an extra year between him and the other guys, we dont NEED him this year unless we get some injuries.
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Hilliard offers something we Don't have On roster... A power back.
Huh? Ware, Ford and to an extent Blue easily cover the power running game. All 3 are going to be 210+.
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Magee should RS, KH not so much.
They should both redshirt, we dont need either one this year - once again barring injuries.
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Hilliard is our largest RB, and he will drop his pads
and lay the wood. He is a Les miles back.
We have other RBs who can do this, Ware specifically is easily a RB that can do this at his 225-230 pound size. He's also just more multi-dimensional.
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Magee runs like ware.
Magee is a lot smaller than Ware.
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Hilliard is a bruiser.
So is Ware when called upon it. Ford and Blue also have the size.
It'd be dumb to play Hilliard for 15-30 carries this year because that's all he'd get anyways with all the RBs in front of him...and all of them are young too.
Posted on 7/6/11 at 12:37 pm to Bonjourno
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I would bet a lot of money that Gore gets more carries than Hilliard... a lot more
totals for each?
a guy like Trindon Holliday averaged 28 carries per season over 4 seasons.
he didnt carry more than 27 times in a season until his SR year, when he had 53.
I would hope they use Russell Shepard ahead of Gore in just about any package except maybe in the I-form as a change of pace. Gore is better between the tackles, but really, how much do we need him to run between the tackles? Anything to the outside i want the ball in Sheps hand, esp out of any package from teh shotgun
I could see Gore getting 30-35 carries max. Hilliard just right below that. I wouldnt guess a lot more, but that is just me.
Posted on 7/6/11 at 12:45 pm to Lester Earl
I just think Gore really impressed during the spring. I think we are going to look to get him a lot of touches, not just on the outside either. I remember a quote from the spring where they talk about his vision between the tackles and how he's not just a "scat" back
Posted on 7/6/11 at 12:47 pm to thunderbird1100
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Because we have FOUR runningbacks who are either a SO. or rFR. Whats the point in log-jamming the position that much with 5 guys now who will be within 1 class of each other
we'll recruit 2-3 more again this year as well. We generally always have RBs stacked up.
its not that big of a deal. Redshirting in football at a lot of positions is becoming more and more obsolete. Esp at a position like RB.
Posted on 7/6/11 at 12:49 pm to thunderbird1100
I don't feel like re-hashing this argument again. You are crazy if you think blue and ford are power backs. You are even crazier if you think Spencer Ware will get all of the short yardage runs. And you are exceptionally blind if you think magee is small. You must be another one of those who looks at the Internet listings of 190 and believes it. Magee runs like Ware, who runs like Addai.
Posted on 7/6/11 at 12:49 pm to Bonjourno
impressive enough to steal carries from the 3 guys in front of him?
i admitted, he is a good runner between the tackles for his size, but its not like we are going to put him in there and pound it with him. You're probably talking 3-5 carries a game MAX. Les Miles loves his big prodding RBs and usually always favors the older guys at RB.
how many carries do you think he gets over a full season?
i admitted, he is a good runner between the tackles for his size, but its not like we are going to put him in there and pound it with him. You're probably talking 3-5 carries a game MAX. Les Miles loves his big prodding RBs and usually always favors the older guys at RB.
how many carries do you think he gets over a full season?
Posted on 7/6/11 at 12:55 pm to Lester Earl
I say redshirt everyone but the Freak and possibly Landry, but only if you need him. We are stacked at WR even though most of them are not a common name just yet.
Posted on 7/6/11 at 1:01 pm to TIGERSby10
thunder,
You redshirt freshman who have better players and good depth in front of them. Sure we have plenty of rbs on roster. So? You let the best play.
Think we should have redshirted Mathieu last year too because St. Julien was on roster in front of him?
You redshirt freshman who have better players and good depth in front of them. Sure we have plenty of rbs on roster. So? You let the best play.
Think we should have redshirted Mathieu last year too because St. Julien was on roster in front of him?
Posted on 7/6/11 at 1:16 pm to Lester Earl
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impressive enough to steal carries from the 3 guys in front of him?
Yes, imo. And I only think there is only 1 definitely in front of him in Ware. It's hard to tell between him and Ford bc of Ford's lack of spring, but I would not be surprised if they get similar amounts of carries
Posted on 7/6/11 at 1:17 pm to Bonjourno
both of those guys earned playing time last year while Gore redshirted, so i think that says something right there.
Posted on 7/6/11 at 1:24 pm to Lester Earl
Ok I'm opening a can of worms with this...
What did Gore do to impress anyone? All I've seen of
him is the spring game, and nothing special stood out to me.
Ware is special. Hopefully ford can be good. Blue, Gore..... Average
What did Gore do to impress anyone? All I've seen of
him is the spring game, and nothing special stood out to me.
Ware is special. Hopefully ford can be good. Blue, Gore..... Average
Posted on 7/6/11 at 1:26 pm to Lester Earl
Coaches say they wanted to use Gore last year but he got hurt so they decided it was better to redshirt him.
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