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re: LSU's last drive before halftime...

Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:22 pm to
Posted by oompaw
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:22 pm to
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A QB substitution in this situation would have all kinds of negative effects.


I agree...remember Tennessee. We got lucky on that one.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:23 pm to
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It's called securing the catch. It looks like he was making sure of making the catch first, which we badly needed


He was wide open, the pass got to him in front of him. Securing shouldn't have been a problem.
Posted by ATH216
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:23 pm to
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It's called securing the catch. It looks like he was making sure of making the catch first, which we badly needed.


I didn't know you had to fall down to secure a catch
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:25 pm to
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I'm glad you aren't the coach. A QB substitution in this situation would have all kinds of negative effects. Think before you type.




We had a timeout. We've done it before with JJ going in to QB sneak. Hell, we did on the first drive I believe. And I'm a poster on the rant, it's an opinion, get out of here with this "glad you're not the coach" bullshite so go frick yourself dude.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:26 pm to
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I agree...remember Tennessee. We got lucky on that one.





Completely different. JJ went in there to run, without a timeout. Lee would be going in to throw one low risk pass that wouldn't take hardly any time off the clock.

Amazing you can't even understand this obvious distinction.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:27 pm to
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He was wide open, the pass got to him in front of him.


if by 'in front of him' you mean 'a mile behind him', I agree...
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:30 pm to
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We had a timeout. We've done it before with JJ going in to QB sneak. Hell, we did on the first drive I believe. And I'm a poster on the rant, it's an opinion, get out of here with this "glad you're not the coach" bull shite so go frick yourself dude


Okay, it could easily go all wrong in that little bit of time left. JJ had nice opportunities, randle or shep could've scored. Hell ware should've score. A qb change in said situation is unnecessary. Oh yea and u mad

Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:31 pm to
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You, my efriend analyzed this drive perfectly.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:32 pm to
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if by 'in front of him' you mean 'a mile behind him', I agree...


Guess I should clarify. He caught the ball with the ball out in front of his body with his back facing the endzone.
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
8550 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:33 pm to
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If Reid doesn't catch the ball we lose


If they had a half arse kicker we lose.

Hind sight is always 20/20, even over things you can control.


Not calling you out here, just feeding off what you said.

What I don't like about the what if game, primarly being played by the Bama contingent and a lot of the media, is that it assumes LSU would have done everything EXACTLY the same even if one or more of those FGs was made. Maybe LSU doesn't play so conservatively once they got inside the 10 at the end of the 1st half. They certainly wouldn't have been so conservative at the end of regulation. And they certainly make more of an effort for a TD if Bama makes the FG in OT.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:37 pm to
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A qb change in said situation is unnecessary.


Well it's a low risk scenario involving the best matchup on the field for us. Sure, JJ can throw the ball, but he doesn't throw the fade as well as JL. The clock would stop if it was incomplete, or we would just use our last timeout if something bad happened. I'm okay with not doing it, just noting that I thought it was a decent option. I'm not mad even though people assume that all the time.
This post was edited on 11/6/11 at 9:44 pm
Posted by LSUBS88
Member since Sep 2010
930 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:40 pm to
"Really, the only thing we had was speed to the outside. We rode that play all the way down the field, but ran ware against a monster 8-9 man front instead."

same thing ive been saying all season, make them stop us when we picking up 5+ with an oppty to take it to the house ( like in OT). They have to adjust to what we doing, opens up other things in our arsenal. imho
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:42 pm to
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Well it's a low risk scenario involving the best matchup on the field for us. Sure, JJ can throw the ball, but he doesn't throw the fade as well as JJ. The clock would stop if it was incomplete, or we would just use our last timeout if something bad happened. I'm okay with not doing it, just noting that I thought it was a decent option. I'm not mad even though people assume that all the time


JJ can't throw that fade as well as JJ haha. All joking aside JJ can throw a nice fade, see auburn game. You have your opinion though my man. The opportunities were there, the execution wasn't.
Posted by oompaw
In piney hill country...
Member since Dec 2007
6271 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:43 pm to
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He was wide open, the pass got to him in front of him. Securing shouldn't have been a problem.


He had to wait for the ball even looked like he lost his balance a little. He evidently wanted to make sure he had it first before advancing. Smart play. I've seen plenty of receivers miss easy catching by getting in a hurry and trying to run before securing the catch.




quote:

Amazing you can't even understand this obvious distinction.


Good point...I did miss that.
This post was edited on 11/6/11 at 9:44 pm
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:44 pm to
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but gotta get a TD right there. Hope we keep rolling!


both teams played an extremely conservative game. if either team had scored a td the play calling would have opened up. miles seemed determined to just keep it close and our D allowed that by basically not letting bama to cross our 30 yd line. it's like we erected a wall and refused to let them pass it. so when we got close to the goal line, the thinking was to not turn it over no matter what. so we tried muscling it in and failing that went for the FG. think about it, our 2 field goals just tied the score.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:44 pm to
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JJ can't throw that fade as well as JJ haha. All joking aside JJ can throw a nice fade, see auburn game. You have your opinion though my man. The opportunities were there, the execution wasn't.


Yeah just noticed how I messed that up. ha

Yeah, he did throw a nice ball to TT against Auburn but that was a bit different than a true fade from the goal line. Maybe I'm splitting hairs though.

And I do agree that the opportunities were there and we didn't take advantage of them.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
22004 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:47 pm to
Another thing...if JJ takes off running on 2nd down when he threw the ball into the 5th row, he could've walked into the endzone around the left end. Although, he was probably coached to throw it away and not run, as he should've been. Just an observation.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:48 pm to
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Another thing...if JJ takes off running on 2nd down when he threw the ball into the 5th row, he could've walked into the endzone around the left end. Although, he was probably coached to throw it away and not run, as he should've been. Just an observation.




Yeah I noticed that too. With a timeout, I would have been okay with him trying to run.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18419 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:52 pm to
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And I do agree that the opportunities were there and we didn't take advantage of them.


All the more reason why this NC fathom is looking pretty damn real because our players have executed and can execute such plays but given the environment LSU was in, it was a lot of pressure. LSU is going to be hell on wheels from here on out, believe it.
Posted by tjtiger9
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Member since Aug 2005
4021 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:59 pm to
I still say if we run the option to either side before half-time, especially right after the pass interference call, we score easy. They were having all sorts of trouble with it in the first half.
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