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re: LSUAD is videotaping students chanting obscenities.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 4:33 pm to ballscaster
Posted on 12/16/13 at 4:33 pm to ballscaster
You are really showing your maturity in here.
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Posted on 12/16/13 at 4:34 pm to CarRamrod
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yep. It will take more than 4 years. there still will be people yelling it 4 years down the line and it wont take long for the students to start chanting it again. The song is dead.
Yup. But they'll probably try again next year. And then be inexplicably shocked at the results.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 4:34 pm to ballscaster
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In all seriousness sardog, nobody knows what the hell you're talking about at this point.
Why are you quoting gibberish from lnchbox and attributing it to me? No wonder you can't understand the questions that I am actually asking.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 4:35 pm to sardog12
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Why are you quoting gibberish from lnchbox and attributing it to me? No wonder you can't understand the questions that I am actually asking.
That is what your gibberish meant. I've asked you three times to explain it, and you either can't or won't.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 4:52 pm to sardog12
I love it thats these tards are screaming free speech......Wait until they graduate, Yea you can curse out your boss whenever you want to....But that doesnt mean you'll have a job after. Posted on 12/16/13 at 5:00 pm to sardog12
quote:I have never complained that the University is policing itself. I have complained how the University may start policing itself.
You stated that it is up to the university to police itself, which you support, otherwise you shouldn't have made the statement. Now you complain that they are doing just that.
You'd better ignore that difference however, so you can keep calling me a hypocrite.
quote:You should listen better.
What part of this sentence do you find difficult to understand? So you are correct that the university should police its own, which it is doing in this case.
quote:The analogy is completely correct and was explained plainly a few pages back.
This doesn't change that your analogy is absurd.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 5:01 pm to CarRamrod
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You are really showing your maturity in here.
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I love it thats these tards are screaming free speech
Posted on 12/16/13 at 5:57 pm to LNCHBOX
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Yep, I'm the one with a tantrum in this thread.
I agree with this.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 5:59 pm to moneyg
Posted on 12/16/13 at 6:01 pm to ballscaster
Bama, Bama, Bama won't you bite my A&*
Got to H*&& Ole Miss
What comes out a Chinaman's A*&
(**& I'm from Louisiana
Students are going to be students. I don't see the harm with the chants. The student section brings passion to the game that is often lacking in other areas of the stadium. Let them have fun. It is bothering no one except the television people who already slow the game down too much (hate the red hat man, really), cause people to leave early and/or not attend (no one in my family though). Do we really just expect the students to sit there politely while we wait for the red hat man to get off the field? I don't. Let them have fun!!!
Got to H*&& Ole Miss
What comes out a Chinaman's A*&
(**& I'm from Louisiana
Students are going to be students. I don't see the harm with the chants. The student section brings passion to the game that is often lacking in other areas of the stadium. Let them have fun. It is bothering no one except the television people who already slow the game down too much (hate the red hat man, really), cause people to leave early and/or not attend (no one in my family though). Do we really just expect the students to sit there politely while we wait for the red hat man to get off the field? I don't. Let them have fun!!!
Posted on 12/16/13 at 6:54 pm to LNCHBOX
When was the last time it was played before this season?
Posted on 12/16/13 at 7:23 pm to ballscaster
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I have never complained that the University is policing itself. I have complained how the University may start policing itself.
You'd better ignore that difference however, so you can keep calling me a hypocrite.
So, in your opinion, it is ok for the university to police itself as long as you agree with how it polices itself? They should not be free to police how they see fit at their own event? In my opinion, this is worse than your alleging that we are the "language police". Who are you to judge how they do it? How is that any better than our judging the stupidity of student section with their chant or whether the songs that encourage this should be banned? This is a perfect example of your "holier than thou" attitude that I find to by hypocritical in nature.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 8:00 pm to sardog12
quote:Already explained.
So, in your opinion, it is ok for the university to police itself as long as you agree with how it polices itself? They should not be free to police how they see fit at their own event?
quote:Don't care. You support language policing. You don't respect others' de facto free speech, so I don't respect your opinion on the matter.
In my opinion,
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Who are you to judge how they do it?
LP trying to turn it around on us free speech supporters. Who am I to object to this? A person who has an honest conscience and sees language policing as vile, sick, and inherently hypocritical. quote:It isn't. But the issue isn't judging language: it is policing language. Judge all you want, but it doesn't make it your place to police language.
How is that any better than our judging the stupidity of student section with their chant or whether the songs that encourage this should be banned?
quote:LP is a low form of life and in no place to judge anything about me. Be it known: those who support the LP are pigs. You worry about your own attitude. Once you straighten that out, you'll be at an equal level to the rest of is, and your opinions will then be respected.
This is a perfect example of your "holier than thou" attitude that I find to by hypocritical in nature.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 8:08 pm to aajdnj
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Let them have fun!!!
So now chanting about fellatio is considered fun?????
aajdnj
LSU Fan
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Member since Oct 2007
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27 posts in 6 years?????? Please post less.
This post was edited on 12/16/13 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 12/16/13 at 8:16 pm to Harry Caray
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The logistics of executing such a petty task is a waste of time and money.
AMEN!!!
Posted on 12/16/13 at 8:45 pm to ballscaster
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Don't care. You support language policing. You don't respect others' de facto free speech, so I don't respect your opinion on the matter.
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LP trying to turn it around on us free speech supporters. Who am I to object to this? A person who has an honest conscience and sees language policing as vile, sick, and inherently hypocritical.
Again with the blatant hypocrisy on your part. Unbelievable. At least you admit to it. So explain how someone who isn't a member of the university and has no say in university matters can be considered a "language police". While you are at it, explain why a university should have no authority to govern what happens at an event that it puts on. How do you expect them to police their event, which is an action that you have stated that you support?
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It isn't. But the issue isn't judging language: it is policing language. Judge all you want, but it doesn't make it your place to police language.
Again, although I don't expect you to have the intelligence to understand it, how do you consider me to be a "language police"? Do I have the authority to cause any action to take place? I express an opinion, same as you.
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LP is a low form of life and in no place to judge anything about me. Be it known: those who support the LP are pigs. You worry about your own attitude. Once you straighten that out, you'll be at an equal level to the rest of is, and your opinions will then be respected.
Yet one more time showing your true colors in that you call others out for "calling names" but don't hesitate to do it yourself. Well, trust me, I have ho problems with my point of view and your judgement of me means nothing. I And I have no wish to lower myself to be your "equal". However, I have no respect for you anymore either nor your baseless points and switching points of view whenever it is convenient for you. If you can't respect that others are entitled to have differing opinions than you, you truly don't deserve my respect.
This post was edited on 12/16/13 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:39 pm to Sherman Klump
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My comparison wasn't based on the rules. You know that. Someone made a statement saying how ridiculous it would be if you shouted STTDB on a corner. I said yeah you would, as well as tailgating on a corner. I never made a policy or rule comparison, that was all you hoss.
The OP says tailgating on a street corner is illegal while shouting obscenities is not (or at least rarely enforced), therefore you can't compare one act against the other. The OP asks: Why wouldn't you pop a beer and barbeque on the street corner? A: Because you don't want to go to jail. The OP also asks: Why wouldn't you yell at someone to suck your prick on the same corner? A: Because you know such behavior is reprehensible and don't want to embarrass yourself. At some point it comes down to self-pride and self-awareness even at the relatively immature age range of 18-22. As far as policing the stadium, the OP thinks LSU Admin should modify the legal disclaimer on the back of the tickets by replacing "suggested" with "unlawful", define the behaviors, and state that violators are subject to removal from the stadium.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:57 pm to ballscaster
ballscaster, I'm sure you are resting confident that you're making the world a better place with your little cause celebre.
Then again, wouldn't it be more worthwhile to defend "free speech" for something that actually has some redeeming value or utility?
People defending free expression are usually asserting their right to define themselves and their values in the world, no matter how distasteful or subversive to the majority. If you think STTDB somehow captures the magic that is you, then by all means. But it's not an expression that gains you much credibility with many people on things that matter. It certainly doesn't represent the level of education or even civilization offered at lsu.
Then again, wouldn't it be more worthwhile to defend "free speech" for something that actually has some redeeming value or utility?
People defending free expression are usually asserting their right to define themselves and their values in the world, no matter how distasteful or subversive to the majority. If you think STTDB somehow captures the magic that is you, then by all means. But it's not an expression that gains you much credibility with many people on things that matter. It certainly doesn't represent the level of education or even civilization offered at lsu.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:22 pm to ballscaster
Regarding your quest for Free Speech, read the following two paragraphs (more than once since your reading comprehension skills are questionable):
Like fighting words, materials that are judged obscene are not protected by the First Amendment. The three-part Miller test stands as the yardstick for differentiating material that is merely offensive and therefore protected by the First Amendment, from that which is legally obscene and therefore subject to restriction (Miller v. California, 413 U.S. 15, 93 S. Ct. 2607, 37 L. Ed. 2d 419 [1973]).
The Miller test determines that material is obscene if (1) the average person, applying contemporary community standards, would find that it appeals to shameful or morbid sexual interests; (2) it depicts or describes patently offensive sexual conduct; and (3) it lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
I think STTDB meets the three standards of obscene.
If you want to "bone up" on your knowledge of Free Speech, here's the LINK.
Like fighting words, materials that are judged obscene are not protected by the First Amendment. The three-part Miller test stands as the yardstick for differentiating material that is merely offensive and therefore protected by the First Amendment, from that which is legally obscene and therefore subject to restriction (Miller v. California, 413 U.S. 15, 93 S. Ct. 2607, 37 L. Ed. 2d 419 [1973]).
The Miller test determines that material is obscene if (1) the average person, applying contemporary community standards, would find that it appeals to shameful or morbid sexual interests; (2) it depicts or describes patently offensive sexual conduct; and (3) it lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
I think STTDB meets the three standards of obscene.
If you want to "bone up" on your knowledge of Free Speech, here's the LINK.
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