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LSU vs. Ole Miss 2009 Highlights.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:22 pm
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Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:25 pm to heypaul
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This post was edited on 6/4/18 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:26 pm to heypaul
The best part of that is Verne yelling “WHAT ARE THEY DOING” and after that 
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:29 pm to heypaul
One of the more frustrating games as a Tiger fan.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:32 pm to LSUbase13
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One of the more frustrating games as a Tiger fan.
ill never forget my anger/frustration. that was the moment something inside of me died for my miles love. complete abortion of clock management. threw JJ under the bus. I remember mike detillier running the post game show an extra 2 hrs and the anger of the fans calling in. miles turned around and did it again the next yr and was bailed out by Dooley's bigger idiocy. miles honestly should've been fired after tenn. (regardless of the win)
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:36 pm to heypaul
How does Jefferson take that sack
Such a disaster
Such a disaster
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:36 pm to heypaul
Drove there and back to BR same day to watch that crap
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:48 pm to heypaul
Lafell busting his arse and recovering that onside kick was the worst thing that ever happened to Les Miles.
LSU was down 8 with 3:05 left in the game and completed a textbook 10 play 66 yard touchdown drive to get the game to 25-23 with just over a minute to play. After failing to convert the 2 point conversion, the onside was the only option.
Had OM simply recovered the kick, LSU likely loses by 2 in a hard fought road game against a team that was on the upswing and would win 9 games that year under a new HC after going winless in the SEC the previous year.
After two hard fought losses to UF and Alabama, a close road loss to another good team would have felt like the team was making progress and was ready fo compete again in 2010.
But the chaos surrounding the ending turned many fans off of Miles for good, not to mention JJ, and nothing he would do after would ever erase that bungled ending.
Everyone freaks out about the ending, but honestly that wasn’t even the point. A team is confused and doesn’t know what to do when a Hail Mary is caught short of the end zone?? Honestly not surprising.
The real issue occurred before that when after a great throw and catch from JJ to Lafell got us into FG range at the OM 32 with 40 seconds left, we dropped back to pass.
It was a terrible terrible call by Crowton, and Miles, who loves the FB dive amirite, honestly should have overruled the call.
But he didn’t, because he rarely did despite the Rantards that claim otherwise, and JJ took a huge sack to the 42 with 31 seconds left.
Then we threw AGAIN and instead of just throwing the ball away under pressure, JJ threw to Ridley for another huge loss.
Then came the insane Toliver catch that at that point was just pure chaos and confusion leading to the final play.
Had we not recovered the kick or we simply ran the ball, even if we ended up missing the FG, JJ and Miles wouldn’t have gotten the bumbling reputations that they were never able to shake after that game and I think the following years play out much differently for both of them.
LSU was down 8 with 3:05 left in the game and completed a textbook 10 play 66 yard touchdown drive to get the game to 25-23 with just over a minute to play. After failing to convert the 2 point conversion, the onside was the only option.
Had OM simply recovered the kick, LSU likely loses by 2 in a hard fought road game against a team that was on the upswing and would win 9 games that year under a new HC after going winless in the SEC the previous year.
After two hard fought losses to UF and Alabama, a close road loss to another good team would have felt like the team was making progress and was ready fo compete again in 2010.
But the chaos surrounding the ending turned many fans off of Miles for good, not to mention JJ, and nothing he would do after would ever erase that bungled ending.
Everyone freaks out about the ending, but honestly that wasn’t even the point. A team is confused and doesn’t know what to do when a Hail Mary is caught short of the end zone?? Honestly not surprising.
The real issue occurred before that when after a great throw and catch from JJ to Lafell got us into FG range at the OM 32 with 40 seconds left, we dropped back to pass.
It was a terrible terrible call by Crowton, and Miles, who loves the FB dive amirite, honestly should have overruled the call.
But he didn’t, because he rarely did despite the Rantards that claim otherwise, and JJ took a huge sack to the 42 with 31 seconds left.
Then we threw AGAIN and instead of just throwing the ball away under pressure, JJ threw to Ridley for another huge loss.
Then came the insane Toliver catch that at that point was just pure chaos and confusion leading to the final play.
Had we not recovered the kick or we simply ran the ball, even if we ended up missing the FG, JJ and Miles wouldn’t have gotten the bumbling reputations that they were never able to shake after that game and I think the following years play out much differently for both of them.
This post was edited on 6/4/18 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 6/4/18 at 2:07 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Had we not recovered the kick or we simply ran the ball, even if we ended up missing the FG, JJ and Miles wouldn’t have gotten the bumbling reputations that they were never able to shake after that game and I think the following years play out much differently for both of them.
Just 10 months later, Miles has another massive clock blunder against Tennessee
Posted on 6/4/18 at 2:17 pm to skullhawk
I’m aware. But it was a cumulative effect. And I’m also not sure the Tennessee game plays out the same way had the OM meltdown never happened.
You could sense it, from the field, to the sidelines, to the stands, everyone was thinking and saying NOT AGAIN.
Hell I think the announcers even said those exact words at one point.
It became a self fulfilling prophecy.
Again, had that ending gone differently at Oxford, even if we still lose, the vibe around the team the rest of the season and in the offseason would have been drastically different, leading to better outcomes going forward imo.
You could sense it, from the field, to the sidelines, to the stands, everyone was thinking and saying NOT AGAIN.
Hell I think the announcers even said those exact words at one point.
It became a self fulfilling prophecy.
Again, had that ending gone differently at Oxford, even if we still lose, the vibe around the team the rest of the season and in the offseason would have been drastically different, leading to better outcomes going forward imo.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 2:23 pm to skullhawk
And you have to remember, the very next week after the OM game, we executed perfectly on the game tying drive against Arkansas on the way to a big season ending win that we desperately needed.
And the week after the Tennessee mess we had a great game winning drive to beat Urban and UF.
But those didn’t register the same way the meltdowns did. We just always remember the bad more than the good.
And the week after the Tennessee mess we had a great game winning drive to beat Urban and UF.
But those didn’t register the same way the meltdowns did. We just always remember the bad more than the good.
This post was edited on 6/4/18 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 6/4/18 at 2:28 pm to heypaul
“Walk of champions”
Makes me laugh everytime.
Then there’s always this..
No matter how tough things get in Baton Rouge, we’ll never be Ole Miss.
Makes me laugh everytime.
Then there’s always this..
No matter how tough things get in Baton Rouge, we’ll never be Ole Miss.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 2:37 pm to heypaul
How can a head coach not know you can’t clock it with one second? It shows how little he knew about football. He knew the basics and that was it.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 2:46 pm to terriblegreen
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How can a head coach not know you can’t clock it with one second? It shows how little he knew about football. He knew the basics and that was it.
Please tell me a better strategy with 1 second left, when the clock starts as soon as the ref blows the whistle.
Hint: there’s not one, because the game was over. No field goal, no Hail Mary. It was over. He was trying to give his team the best chance they had which was flying under the rules radar. However, that’s the moment I wanted Miles fired.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 2:48 pm to lsudat10
Exactly. The bigger blunder was when all that time ran off the clock the two plays before.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 3:01 pm to lsudat10
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Hint: there’s not one, because the game was over. No field goal, no Hail Mary. It was over. He was trying to give his team the best chance they had which was flying under the rules radar.
I defend Miles on this a lot as just a series of unfortunate events, but I wouldn’t say he was trying to sneak it under the rules. That’s giving him too much credit. It was a blunder, just not some insanely moronic blunder that it’s made out to be. It was really just the timing of calling for the spike before they realized too much time had run off before the catch was ruled down.
The problem was that Toliver caught the ball and went to the ground with 3 seconds left on the clock. But there was a lag with the ref coming up to make the call to stop the clock.
Had he blown it dead right away we would have had at least 2 seconds left, enough time to clock it. Miles and the rest of the staff were already signaling clock it before they realized more time had run off.
The disaster happened when everyone lined up to clock it and then the coaching staff realized then started yelling run a play run a play.
You can see the confusion on the players at that point while the ref is spotting the ball, and at that point the goose is already cooked.
Now, JJ should have just yelled for everyone to run a route and just snapped the ball and hoped for the best. But I honestly don’t find it that crazy that he just froze and spiked it without being able to react quickly enough to improvise.
The following year against UT, T Bob took it on himself to just snap the ball before the clock ran out, because nothing could be worse than just not snapping it and letting the clock run out.
He was praised for that quick thinking, and rightfully so, but not because it was easy or obvious, but because it was a pretty extraordinarily heads up move in a high pressure situation.
JJ didn’t make the same heads up play, but again it wasn’t an easy thing to do. It doesn’t mean he’s an idiot or that he sucks, he just froze in a really tough and crazy spot.
Again, how many times in football history has a Hail Mary been caught short of the end zone?? And with time left on the clock no less.
It was a pretty incredible situation, and after the two huge mistakes JJ made to take the sack then throwing to Ridley way behind the line of scrimmage he was already rattled to say the least.
This post was edited on 6/4/18 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 6/4/18 at 3:17 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Lafell busting his arse and recovering that onside kick was the worst thing that ever happened to Les Miles.
LSU was down 8 with 3:05 left in the game and completed a textbook 10 play 66 yard touchdown drive to get the game to 25-23 with just over a minute to play. After failing to convert the 2 point conversion, the onside was the only option.
Had OM simply recovered the kick, LSU likely loses by 2 in a hard fought road game against a team that was on the upswing and would win 9 games that year under a new HC after going winless in the SEC the previous year.
After two hard fought losses to UF and Alabama, a close road loss to another good team would have felt like the team was making progress and was ready fo compete again in 2010.
But the chaos surrounding the ending turned many fans off of Miles for good, not to mention JJ, and nothing he would do after would ever erase that bungled ending.
Everyone freaks out about the ending, but honestly that wasn’t even the point. A team is confused and doesn’t know what to do when a Hail Mary is caught short of the end zone?? Honestly not surprising.
The real issue occurred before that when after a great throw and catch from JJ to Lafell got us into FG range at the OM 32 with 40 seconds left, we dropped back to pass.
It was a terrible terrible call by Crowton, and Miles, who loves the FB dive amirite, honestly should have overruled the call.
But he didn’t, because he rarely did despite the Rantards that claim otherwise, and JJ took a huge sack to the 42 with 31 seconds left.
Then we threw AGAIN and instead of just throwing the ball away under pressure, JJ threw to Ridley for another huge loss.
Then came the insane Toliver catch that at that point was just pure chaos and confusion leading to the final play.
Had we not recovered the kick or we simply ran the ball, even if we ended up missing the FG, JJ and Miles wouldn’t have gotten the bumbling reputations that they were never able to shake after that game and I think the following years play out much differently for both of them.
You forgot the worst part which made 1 second left happen. After 3rd down LSU let 15 seconds run off the clock before calling timeout with 9 seconds left. Had Les not been an idiot an known how to use timeouts LSU would have called one with about 20 seconds left and had plenty of time after the hail mary.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 3:29 pm to The Boat
Yeah no question, the time out should have been called right away.
He also took the blame for not overriding the pass call and kind of defending Crowton for the thought process behind it:
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"I had lost that opportunity for my team by squandering seconds," Miles said Monday. "I let the clock get away from me; it was my fault, my mistake."
He also took the blame for not overriding the pass call and kind of defending Crowton for the thought process behind it:
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"I would like to have changed the call," he conceded. "I allowed the call, the pass to be called. My stamp is on that call. I would still green light a pass. We can't at every point of time tell them we're going to be 100 percent run."
This post was edited on 6/4/18 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 6/4/18 at 3:56 pm to higgins
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miles honestly should've been fired after tenn. (regardless of the win)
Anyone have links to Miles presser after that Tennesse game? I distinctly remember being in my car listening on the radio....Miles saying "I call BS" or similar in regards to his players/their effort. Had me FUMING mad
Posted on 6/4/18 at 8:44 pm to redbaron
My 3 yr old twins were at the bottom of the stairs to our basement. When T Bob snapped it and it rolled wildly and uncovered, I yelled "Gdamn mfking sob!". Had no idea they were there. I learned vulgarities through my old man and football also. Ahh, family.
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