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re: LSU RB Jeremy Hill Suspended (Updated 4/30 with Nola.com story)
Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:26 pm to thegambler
Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:26 pm to thegambler
quote:
Arrests since 2010
Alabama
Football
D.J. Pettway (February 11, 2013)
Tyler Hayes (February 11, 2013)
Brent Calloway (February 11, 2013)
Eddie Williams (February 11, 2013)
Eddie Williams (February 10, 2013)
Brent Calloway (October 21, 2011)
Mark Barron (March 20, 2011)
A&M
Football
Kirby Ennis (February 1, 2013)
Johnny Manziel (June 29, 2012)
Kyle Mangan (August 7, 2011)
Damontre Moore (June 3, 2011)
Matthew Joeckel (October 17, 2010)
Arkansas
Football
Austin Flynn (February 12, 2013)
Terrell Williams (November 4, 2012)
Chris Smith (October 10, 2012)
Maudrecus Humphrey (May 12, 2012)
Andrew Peterson (May 12, 2012)
Marquel Wade (May 12, 2012)
Tyler Gilbert (April 17, 2012)
Kane Whitehurst (April 1, 2012)
Jason Peacock (March 16, 2012)
Anthony Oden (July 9, 2011)
Ross Rasner (April 15, 2011)
Lance Ray (January 29, 2011)
Dequinta “D.D.” Jones (October 27, 2010)
LSU
Football
Jeremy Hill (April 27, 2013)
Jordan Jefferson (August 26, 2011)
Joshua Johns (August 26, 2011)
Puts things in perspective doesn't it?
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:27 pm to LsuTool
quote:Honeybadger mutiple drug fails. No sweat continue to ball cause no one does it better. I wonder how many of those fails happened in 2011 when he was a Heismann finalist? yep it's all good.
A caveman can see Miles has no control.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:28 pm to tubucoco
Yep it is..
Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:31 pm to tubucoco
quote:
Honeybadger mutiple drug fails. No sweat continue to ball cause no one does it better. I wonder how many of those fails happened in 2011 when he was a Heismann finalist? yep it's all good.
A now LSU is a failure of a program and Mathieu is rotting away in a prison cell. How did we ever let the program get into this bad of shape.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:31 pm to LSUnowhas2
quote:
I have stated that LSU doesn't even follow and enforce their own discipline policy and took the position that they should.
most teams, businesses, organizations, etc., don't follow their policies to the letter, the policies are in place to deal with the bottom 5-10%.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:33 pm to TheDoc
Good info and that always helps shed light on things to put in perspective. But not to be a stickler I just look at those names on those other schools list ad they dont ring a bell except for Barron at Bama. LSU on the other hand as had truly gifted players destruct hurting the program, but that info is always good to know.
This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:33 pm to tubucoco
quote:
Honeybadger mutiple drug fails. No sweat continue to ball cause no one does it better. I wonder how many of those fails happened in 2011 when he was a Heismann finalist? yep it's all good.
look at all those arrests!!!1!!11!##$%%
I guess all of those football players knew Miles was sweeping drug tests under the rug so they went out and acted like fools and got arrested. I cant beleive we still had a football team after all those guys got arrested.
We gotta get rid of this Miles guy. LSUs graduation rate among football players being 2nd only to Vandy coupled with all these arrests.
NO CONTROL.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:33 pm to EarthwormJim
quote:
How did we ever let the program get into this bad of shape.
After the pounding I took yesterday, I'm ready to just blame the whole thing on Saban, use it as fuel next season, and move on with or without hill
Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:34 pm to LSUnowhas2
So a company with over 100 employee has 1 employee each year that gets into a legal problem (drunk driving, fighting, etc.), does the owner of the company get blamed?
Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:34 pm to tubucoco
quote:
But not to be a stickler I just look at those names on those other schools list ad they dont ring a bell except for Barron at Bama.
Maybe you should watch more football if you don't recognice Manziel or Damontre Moore.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:35 pm to tubucoco
quote:
But not to be a stickler I just look at those names on those other schools list ad they dont ring a bell except for Barron at Bama
funny, I recognize many of those names.
does it matter if the players are good or not? It shouldn't IMO.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:35 pm to EarthwormJim
didn't see Manziel, guess I cruise too fast, but maybe you're right hombre.
This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:56 pm to bam1131
Things might change.
So far, the evidence made public is the most sensational-- the video. It does not show the entire incident-- that would have been ideal, but not realistic. That is all most of us know. We haven't heard about any real evidence before the video starts --just forum BS. I won't pretend to know more, but...
There is a concept that is part of self-defense called "continuing threat" where the totality of the circumstances must be examined. Time to speculate...
IF the "victim" did instigate the physical altercation....
IF the "victim" issued threats, like "I will kill you..."....
THEN the "victim" after being dropped starts to get off the ground as shown in the video. Would a clever defense lawyer say "my client saw that as a continuing threat, and felt compelled to continue to defend himself."
SO, the theory is one continuing event, one continuing threat, so after the arse kicking, JH was still defending himself.
BS? Maybe. JH was in the wrong for hitting the guy as shown in the video? Maybe. If charged, would he get off? Maybe.
Discuss.
So far, the evidence made public is the most sensational-- the video. It does not show the entire incident-- that would have been ideal, but not realistic. That is all most of us know. We haven't heard about any real evidence before the video starts --just forum BS. I won't pretend to know more, but...
There is a concept that is part of self-defense called "continuing threat" where the totality of the circumstances must be examined. Time to speculate...
IF the "victim" did instigate the physical altercation....
IF the "victim" issued threats, like "I will kill you..."....
THEN the "victim" after being dropped starts to get off the ground as shown in the video. Would a clever defense lawyer say "my client saw that as a continuing threat, and felt compelled to continue to defend himself."
SO, the theory is one continuing event, one continuing threat, so after the arse kicking, JH was still defending himself.
BS? Maybe. JH was in the wrong for hitting the guy as shown in the video? Maybe. If charged, would he get off? Maybe.
Discuss.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 1:00 pm to TigerCoon
Not reading this whole thing but everyone knows the N-word yelling 'victim's' name is out there on Bleacher Reports and Tiger Hype on FB now right?
As is the guy who gave them the video.
As is the guy who gave them the video.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 1:00 pm to LoyalTiger
quote:
So a company with over 100 employee has 1 employee each year that gets into a legal problem (drunk driving, fighting, etc.), does the owner of the company get blamed?
It depends on what that one employee did. This isn't a one size fits all thing. If the employee gets arrested for drunk driving, the answer would be no. If the employee steals a million dollars from the company on the CEO's watch, then the answer is probably yes.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 1:00 pm to TigerCoon
quote:
BS? Likely. JH was in the wrong for hitting the guy from behind as shown in the video? Likely. If charged, would he get off? Likely.
Discuss.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 1:03 pm to tubucoco
quote:
Mles should just put an end to this by banning these players from going to bars or clubs within the campus area. This hasn't just started happening it has gon on for awhile, and it's just time to stop the nonsense. Sometimes tough love is the best cure.
It's more complicated than just banning Tigerland, but clearly this is a recurring problem. It would seem LSU would want to place some constraints.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 1:07 pm to LSUnowhas2
quote:
It depends on what that one employee did. This isn't a one size fits all thing. If the employee gets arrested for drunk driving, the answer would be no. If the employee steals a million dollars from the company on the CEO's watch, then the answer is probably yes.
So wouldn't you agree that this is more like drunk driving than stealing a million dollars?
Posted on 5/1/13 at 1:14 pm to LoyalTiger
These coaches give these MEN a tremendous opportunity. They're grown MEN, and when they frick it up, it's on them. Not the coaches. PERIOD.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 1:24 pm to LoyalTiger
You guys grew up without getting into legal trouble because you had Dads. You don't think what will the police do if I get caught, you think what will my ole man do?
It is easy to preach about how these jocks are grown men, but most aren't . Most will get there, but some won't . Coaches are usually the best father figures some of these guys ever will have. They won't cut and run and the first sign
Of trouble, neither did you ole man.
It is easy to preach about how these jocks are grown men, but most aren't . Most will get there, but some won't . Coaches are usually the best father figures some of these guys ever will have. They won't cut and run and the first sign
Of trouble, neither did you ole man.
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