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re: LSU Plans to split with Canada after bowl

Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:30 am to
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:30 am to
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Nah. It just takes longer for the O cancer to spread and destroy the program.


You are the perfect example of a cancer.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:30 am to
Sorry, but O is a damned fool for hiring him. Geezus H. Way to go Coach Corndog.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62154 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:38 am to
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You are the perfect example of a cancer.


How do? I know you’re upset, but be logical. Again, none of this is a shocker. We hired someone who failed miserably at administering a program. Is it a surprise that he is unable to administer a program? I know a lot of you think that coaching is just a rah rah pump everyone up thing, but major college programs are multi-million dollar businesses. O is unable to lead one. Sorry your feelings are hurt.
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:39 am to
This takes us one step closer to getting rid of Alleva imo. The financial mistakes with the golden goose of the athletic department are adding up.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:44 am to
Orgeron finally has all the rope he needs to hang himself. Happy trails Coach 0. Happy trails...
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:55 am to
Someone needs to tell Canada he is not a head coach!
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:55 am to
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Give me Ensminger, Cameron, or Crowton any day.


Have you ever watched any of the games with your eyes open? LSU had chances to beat 'Bama this season, but did not have a QB who could get it done. The offense, for the first time in years did not look moribund against the Gumps. 0 is a freaking MORON for hiring him if this was the result. And, if he hires Ensminger then its likely that LSU drops 6 games next year.

Can anyone on this board and I mean anyone, explain how LSU tries to hire JImbo Fisher twice and fails, but the Aggies swoop him up like it was nothing? I can explain. There is NO leadership at LSU. None. It is a political viper pit where the admin plays favorites. Sound familiar. The school has no care about winning. 0.

Posted by LSU Wayne
Walker
Member since Apr 2005
4446 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:00 am to
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Can anyone on this board and I mean anyone, explain how LSU tries to hire JImbo Fisher twice and fails, but the Aggies swoop him up like it was nothing?


A few explanations: Alleva, DumbassKingAlexander, gutless powerless BOS, Louisiana politicians getting involved, maybe even a partially lazy fan base who isn't demanding enough.

As you said, true leadership vacuum. We need a headstrong LSU leader who isn't all about personal gain optics. I just have no real confidence that we'll ever get that back as we were lucky to find lightning in a bottle once.
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:07 am to
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Can anyone on this board and I mean anyone, explain how LSU tries to hire JImbo Fisher twice and fails, but the Aggies swoop him up like it was nothing?


Very easy. TAMU's admin and Alumni are smarter, more wealthy and more committed to winning than LSU's.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 9:08 am
Posted by Jebadeb
Member since Oct 2017
5646 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:09 am to
This may go really poorly are really well.

It's obvious Canada was overhyped.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ensinger gets the job, because you know Louisiana good ole boy politics.

Dream Scenario: Lure Kiffin with a salary equal or higher to Canada's which is more than Kiffin gets now. And tell Kiffin O is on his way out, so Kiffin can be HC later.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 9:10 am
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
13103 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:13 am to
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O is about to destory any chance he had to being here long term if he makes Ensminger the new OC


It was already destroyed when he encouraged Canada to take a head coaching job ....

Stupid unnecessary comment...endangers LSU chances of beating ND
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13046 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:19 am to
The whole controversy is being mishandled, regardless of the underlying merits of the move.
And, yes, that could very well have an effect on team's preparation/ readiness for the game.
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:20 am to
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Can anyone on this board and I mean anyone, explain how LSU tries to hire JImbo Fisher twice and fails, but the Aggies swoop him up like it was nothing?


Very easy. TAMU's admin and Alumni are smarter, more wealthy and more committed to winning than LSU's.


I also think the football coaching hires for both schools mirror their political situations and habits. TAMU(Texas), identified the most talented and proven coach who was was available, made an offer at market value and hired their guy. No state ties, no program ties. Just the most proven coach they could possibly hire. LSU(Louisiana) bumbles around, embarrasses itself with poor PR and poor leadership, hires a local good ole boy for a position they are unqualified for as a bargain hire, and it will end up costing the program more money in the long run.

Very symbolic of the way the two states operate imo.
Posted by azcatiger
somewhere
Member since Mar 2011
5291 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:21 am to
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TAMU's admin and Alumni are smarter, more wealthy and more committed to winning than LSU's.


Let me first say that I think it is a bad move letting Canada go.

However, this statement after the Sumlin hire, Chavis Hire, and overall underperforming football program is ridiculous. I also think Fisher will not have any more success IMO.
ATM alumni may be richer is true, but they are still fu#@$^* AGGIES so they are not smarter.

This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 9:50 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:23 am to
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However, this statement after the Sumlin hire


Sumlin was a good hire. It didn't work out, but it was a better hire than we made.

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Chavis Hire


Also a defensible hire.

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and overall underperforming football program is ridiculous


Compared to what? They play in the hardest division of football and aren't an established power like Bama, LSU, Auburn.

Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:26 am to
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Sumlin hire, Chavis Hire, and overall underperforming football program is ridiculous


Both were excellent hires on paper. Did not work out, but they were definitely making hires to try to compete.

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I also think Fisher will not have any more success IMO


Who knows. Doesnt matter. They still hired the best available coach they could get at the time. When you have the chance to hire a coach who has won a NC, a heisman winner, #1 recruiting classes etc, you do it.

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but their still fu#@$^* AGGIES so they are not smarter.


Ive been hearing Aggie jokes my whole life as well, but time to face reality. TAMU is 100x better university than LSU.
Posted by azcatiger
somewhere
Member since Mar 2011
5291 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:31 am to
Sumlin ultimately failed and went through QB's, Offensive Coordinators, and then D.C's. He was never terrible but he continually underachieved.
Posted by azcatiger
somewhere
Member since Mar 2011
5291 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:33 am to
There is something to say about the culture of a place. I think ATM is has a lot of positives, but their culture is just weird to me. I know some people love it, but it is not for me.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
88576 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:33 am to
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Sumlin ultimately failed and went through QB's, Offensive Coordinators, and then D.C's. He was never terrible but he continually underachieved.




That has nothing to do with it being a good hire at the time. And I still don't understand why you say they underachieved.

Posted by LSU Wayne
Walker
Member since Apr 2005
4446 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:34 am to
If O is going to make this move, you may as well throw the kitchen sink at Jim Chaney and see if he's willing to take a lateral from Georgia although them being in the playoffs is obviously problematic. Chaney gives you a QB developer and he was on the TN staff with Orgeron and Cregg so they know one another. Chaney is making $850k at UGA.

You want to hire the best, at least try to get one of the best, especially when it comes to QB developers, before considering promoting Ensminger.
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