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re: LSU OC vs LSU OC - Jimbo vs E - Avg Total Offense - E's Crushin' It
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:29 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:29 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
quote:This is where Brady earns his stripes. He's going to have to work the hell out of these guys, while still making it somewhat fun at times.
Maybe, maybe not. But are we sure LSU will be able to run RPO's? I mean that what SE pitched for last year, but then at the end of the season he said they weren't able to run many. I'm assuming it's because of personnel issues. Is one year going to make that big of a difference?
Plus, O&E have everything on the line. They have their marching orders - build an elite passing game. And they damn sure saw what happened to Miles when he failed the mission. If they'll fire Miles, they'll fire anyone.
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:29 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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It almost sounds like you had a problem with scheme and playcalling.
Nah, S&C coach's fault.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:31 pm to earl keese
quote:That could be a major factor too. Interior linemen aren't recruited as much as they are developed. And way too many injuries.
Nah, S&C coach's fault
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:37 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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That could be a major factor too.
I said it as a joke. Rickdaddy knows what I'm referring too.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:45 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:I agree. My question is that why wasn't something like this done last year? Coach O was pitching a multi-set RPO offense from the beginning. Did Coach O think E was capable of putting in an RPO offense? Did both O and E think that Sullivan was the guy to do it? Is it clear now that both E and Sullivan were unable to establish the type of offense coach O has talked about, and that's why Brady was brought in?
This is where Brady earns his stripes. He's going to have to work the hell out of these guys, while still making it somewhat fun at times.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:48 pm to earl keese
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I said it as a joke. Rickdaddy knows what I'm referring too.
I replied not as a joke. The lowest percentage of 5-stars who get drafted are O & D linemen. It's not natural talent as much as it is strength and conditioning that get them to the next level.
Don't know much about the guy running LSU's S&C except that he's been there a long time. He may be great. But S&C isn't as laid back in major programs as it used to be.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:51 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
quote:That's what it looks like to me. And I see that as a strong move. Not always easy for a HC/OC to admit someone has more expertise in a major coaching area than they do.
Is it clear now that both E and Sullivan were unable to establish the type of offense coach O has talked about, and that's why Brady was brought in?
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:58 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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LSU OC vs LSU OC - Jimbo vs E - Avg Total Offense - E's Crushin' It
Yea, against mediocre to descent defenses E can compete, it's against the elite he cannot compete. And the road to the CFP is paved through bama and E hasn't scored a single point against them in 2 games. LSU shouldn't be aiming for good, they should be aiming for great. Yards mean nothing, points mean everything. Canada's offense scored more points against bama than E's offense.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 4:07 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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I replied not as a joke.
I know. My post was directed at Rickdaddy. It was something RogertheShubber, Rickdaddy and I kicked around between the three of us last month.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 4:07 pm to Tigers eyes
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Yea, against mediocre to descent defenses E can compete,
Southeaster,arky, and la tech disagree.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 4:08 pm to earl keese
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Nah, S&C coach's fault. ?
frickin tommy Moffit......sheesh.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 4:08 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Right, but Coach O has no proven expertise on the offensive side of the ball in the first place. That's why he was suppose to hire the best OC in the country. In comes Ensminger. However Ensminger/Sullivan couldn't get the RPO/offense going, so they fired Sullivan and hired Brady. But where does that leave LSU now. If E is still running the show and designing the offense with Brady just adding input here and there, then I doubt we see a major change in the RPO/offense. If Brady is now designing the offense, the that means LSU has one coach who is installing the offense and another who is calling the plays.
Tbh I don't see how the latter option works well. You would think that the guy who is installing the offense and plays should be the guy calling the plays come game time.
Tbh I don't see how the latter option works well. You would think that the guy who is installing the offense and plays should be the guy calling the plays come game time.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 4:11 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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The lowest percentage of 5-stars who get drafted are O & D linemen.
Link. Im not saying youre lying but id like to see where youre getting this from.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 4:24 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Link. Im not saying youre lying but id like to see where youre getting this from.
Anecdotally that sounds like horse shite
Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:05 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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It's a shitshow if you're an E&O hater AND a Jimbo Fisher fan boy.
Not an E or O fan. Not a Jimbo fan.
Thread is a shitshow because it’s irrelevant what O is doing compared to another coach. What’s relevant is, has he achieved the goal for LSU athletics? That goal was, is, and always will be to win championships. He ain’t done that yet.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:07 pm to UpToPar
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He makes Tiger Ree look like an informed and logical poster.
They’s about a 95% chizzance that he is Tiger Ree, dog.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:11 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Link. Im not saying youre lying but id like to see where youre getting this from.
He could be correct about that. Not because 5 star linemen just don’t pan out to be as good as 4 star linemen or anything of that nature, but rather it’s because there are just fewer 5 star linemen as a group than there are other positions. You literally have to be built a specific way to be a 5 Star linemen and that build with the athleticism doesn’t happen very often.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:34 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Anecdotally that sounds like horse shite
Ban bet big mouth?
Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:34 pm to J2thaROC
Except he said lower percentage so the sheer # wouldn’t matter.
I wouldn’t be surprised if all positions the % of 5 * that pan out are about the same but if I had to guess one position group that fewer did my guess would be QB
I wouldn’t be surprised if all positions the % of 5 * that pan out are about the same but if I had to guess one position group that fewer did my guess would be QB
Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:45 pm to H-Town Tiger
Here's just a clue why you are full of shite -
If I have to back and dig the exact percentages, I want a ban bet first. Basically, there are so few 6'5" 300+ 18-year old's, that coaches are recruiting body types. And not all that many of them have the drive to kick arse in the gym for 4 years.
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That means projecting the future frames of 16- to 18-year-olds and those players' willingness to pack on the needed weight and power (if that sounds easy, consider that 2013 No. 1 NFL Draft pick Eric Fisher gained 70 pounds in college after weighing 250 as a two-star prospect). And that takes time. The instances of freshmen starting on offensive lines are particularly rare, as a good line is usually built with upperclassmen. Coaches hope most linemen will emerge ready to contribute after two or three years in the program.
Like on the defensive line, it's not uncommon to find players with necessary size who were happy to bully smaller players in high school, but less wiling to embrace the massive amount of discipline, energy commitment, and threshold for pain necessary to find success. Much like Andrew Bynum on the hardwood, some kids play football in high school because they are 6'4, 280 pounds and it comes easily, not because they particularly love the game. Coaches have to be able to tell the difference.
If I have to back and dig the exact percentages, I want a ban bet first. Basically, there are so few 6'5" 300+ 18-year old's, that coaches are recruiting body types. And not all that many of them have the drive to kick arse in the gym for 4 years.
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 5:49 pm
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