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re: LSU Men's hoops
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:09 pm to Circle K Beggar
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:09 pm to Circle K Beggar
ThI mcmen honestly don’t know why it hasn’t worked for McMahon because they don’t know anything about basketball which is why they always make up these off the court narratives to excuse the losses. The problem with their excuses is there’s zero factual support for them and there are plenty of other coaches who’ve won with far less.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:12 pm to Madking
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The problem with their excuses is there’s zero factual support for them and there are plenty of other coaches who’ve won with far less.
To me the real litmus test will be how Bucky McMillan does at A&M this season. If he comes in and wins immediately, then the McMen will be in a tizzy. Aside from McMillan (due to a lack of an SEC track record), McMahon is objectively the least accomplished coach within the SEC.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:14 pm to Madking
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Fake news
I see so your position, your disagreement, which you will deliver without insult or anger, is that funding the roster is not important or that McMahon has in fact been funded at the same level as SEC competition the last few years? how do you know?
(I realize even feeding the troll here is a mistake but I am a patient bloke)
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:17 pm to Circle K Beggar
I don’t think McMillan is any good but I do think you can look at someone like Mike White who isn’t anything special but coaches em up enough to keep his teams heads above water almost every season. Now when LSUs job opening happened if someone had suggested Mike White mcmen type fans would’ve laughed at that but now worship someone who is obviously levels below him.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:19 pm to jamarr
That information has already been posted and you’ve seen it. What you guys do is push a false narrative until it’s taken apart with information. You wait a bit go onto another excuse then bring back an old one after the next few are debunked. Proving things to you guys doesn’t stop you from repeating the BS, meanwhile you have nothing to support the things you say.
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:19 pm to mcspufftiger7
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Madking is the Madking of fake news. he doesn't know squat about who spent what
maybe if we ask him politely and try to enter into polite and calm discussion he wont tell us all to go frick ourselves and die. maybe there is some evidence about how LSU hoop was funded at the same rate at the competition he has.
crossing my fingers but expecting to be told I am a Satan worshipping Nazi pedo lying sack of excrement for even considering it
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:20 pm to Madking
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That information has already been posted and you’ve seen it
could you link to it again without calling anyone a evil hellspawn son of a whore who deserves instant murder and genocide of all our families?
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:22 pm to Madking
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Your troll game is F-
could you please politely answer the question? some of us have not seen the numbers you are referencing?
if you cant or just start imploding again I will politely assume you are suffering from some sort of anger Alzheimer's or rage dementia or something and stop encouraging it
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:23 pm to Madking
Here is what happened. Believe me if you want, or not.
In mid-February LSU was 12-12 (1-10) at the bottom of the of SEC for the second time in 3 years. The level of apathy surrounding the program was reaching an inflection point. With approximately 3 weeks left in the season there was a group of wealthy/connected LSU basketball fans (yes, LSU basketball has some of those) who wanted to bring Will Wade back to LSU and were working to put the wheels in motion to do that. The connections for those people went as high as Gov. Landry.
Tate and Woodward were aware of the push to try to get Wade back to LSU. However, they were unequivocally against even considering re-hiring Wade. The reason is because they felt Wade directly lied to them on multiple occasions during the NCAA investigation and they flat out didn't trust him. That put them at odds with connected/influential people.
To combat that push behind the scenes to get Wade back Tate/Woodward decided internally they were not going to fire McMahon despite the awful results and ever diminishing lack of interest in the program. The reason is because they DID NOT want to have a situation where LSU was in the market for a new coach with Wade at McNeese. Had the LSU job come open the demand to get Wade back would have grown from just a small group of donors behind the scenes to the public at large. If the LSU job wasn't open that meant there was no spot for Wade.
However, giving a public vote of confidence for a coach with such an abysmal record would not have been all that well received. There needed to be some justification for keeping McMahon despite the constant losing and they couldn't say publicly "we are keeping him because we do not want to hire Wade". That "justification" for the terrible results was a "lack of spending" and a promise to increase it in conjunction with retaining McMahon.
The timing and the source of the report LSU was going to retain McMahon for year 4 was NOT coincidental. It was pushed out by the AD to combat the push for Wade. Don't think so? Look back to media member who initially broke that story. It was Shea Dixon. That was a pretty odd source given Dixon's focus has always been football recruiting. Odd until you consider his wife is Emily Dixon who, "coincidentally" works for the athletic department.
If LSU's NIL funding was severely lacking that fact would have been known MONTHS before the season even started because the NIL funds are extended to build the roster in April, May, June. It's not like schools are signing "free agents" just before the start or during the season. Yet, news of LSU's purported severe lack of funding didn't come out until the season had completely gone to shite and there were only 3 weeks left in the season...nearly 8 months after the roster was complete.
Tate and Woodward assumed (probably correctly) that if they held on to McMahon for one more year Wade would be out of LA at a power conf. school and they wouldn't have to deal with a push for him if they ultimately chose to fire McMahon at the end of year 4. What they miscalculated is just how vindictive and attention hungry Landry is, which you saw on full display with the BK saga. In rejecting the push for Wade they made an enemy of the governor and his circle. THAT is why Tate was shortly thereafter "encouraged" to take the Rutgers job. It's also why Landry and his group seized the opportunity to push Woodward out when the LSU football season took a nosedive.
So no, LSU didn't have a massive lack of funding relative to the rest of the SEC. That was just the best excuse available for the admin to buy another year to rid themselves of the "Wade problem". But for those searching for an excuse to fit a cause it was as good as any.
Now, you know the rest of the story.
In mid-February LSU was 12-12 (1-10) at the bottom of the of SEC for the second time in 3 years. The level of apathy surrounding the program was reaching an inflection point. With approximately 3 weeks left in the season there was a group of wealthy/connected LSU basketball fans (yes, LSU basketball has some of those) who wanted to bring Will Wade back to LSU and were working to put the wheels in motion to do that. The connections for those people went as high as Gov. Landry.
Tate and Woodward were aware of the push to try to get Wade back to LSU. However, they were unequivocally against even considering re-hiring Wade. The reason is because they felt Wade directly lied to them on multiple occasions during the NCAA investigation and they flat out didn't trust him. That put them at odds with connected/influential people.
To combat that push behind the scenes to get Wade back Tate/Woodward decided internally they were not going to fire McMahon despite the awful results and ever diminishing lack of interest in the program. The reason is because they DID NOT want to have a situation where LSU was in the market for a new coach with Wade at McNeese. Had the LSU job come open the demand to get Wade back would have grown from just a small group of donors behind the scenes to the public at large. If the LSU job wasn't open that meant there was no spot for Wade.
However, giving a public vote of confidence for a coach with such an abysmal record would not have been all that well received. There needed to be some justification for keeping McMahon despite the constant losing and they couldn't say publicly "we are keeping him because we do not want to hire Wade". That "justification" for the terrible results was a "lack of spending" and a promise to increase it in conjunction with retaining McMahon.
The timing and the source of the report LSU was going to retain McMahon for year 4 was NOT coincidental. It was pushed out by the AD to combat the push for Wade. Don't think so? Look back to media member who initially broke that story. It was Shea Dixon. That was a pretty odd source given Dixon's focus has always been football recruiting. Odd until you consider his wife is Emily Dixon who, "coincidentally" works for the athletic department.
If LSU's NIL funding was severely lacking that fact would have been known MONTHS before the season even started because the NIL funds are extended to build the roster in April, May, June. It's not like schools are signing "free agents" just before the start or during the season. Yet, news of LSU's purported severe lack of funding didn't come out until the season had completely gone to shite and there were only 3 weeks left in the season...nearly 8 months after the roster was complete.
Tate and Woodward assumed (probably correctly) that if they held on to McMahon for one more year Wade would be out of LA at a power conf. school and they wouldn't have to deal with a push for him if they ultimately chose to fire McMahon at the end of year 4. What they miscalculated is just how vindictive and attention hungry Landry is, which you saw on full display with the BK saga. In rejecting the push for Wade they made an enemy of the governor and his circle. THAT is why Tate was shortly thereafter "encouraged" to take the Rutgers job. It's also why Landry and his group seized the opportunity to push Woodward out when the LSU football season took a nosedive.
So no, LSU didn't have a massive lack of funding relative to the rest of the SEC. That was just the best excuse available for the admin to buy another year to rid themselves of the "Wade problem". But for those searching for an excuse to fit a cause it was as good as any.
Now, you know the rest of the story.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:23 pm to jamarr
But you have and I haven’t done any of the things you’ve suggested but you have in every post so this is another failed troll attempt
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:28 pm to Alt26
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If LSU's NIL funding was severely lacking that fact would have been known
says who?
and didnt we in fact know just that, that we were funded around the level of the other cellar dweller south Carolina?
you don't have the numbers do you?
without the numbers what are you talking about?
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:30 pm to Madking
quote:
failed troll attempt
so you don't have the numbers then?
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:31 pm to Alt26
The big mistake they made with that false report was not realizing some of the teams mentioned had publicly released their NIL spending which was far off from what Woodys mouthpiece reported making the entire thing false. Later when the NCAA released its numbers those discrepancies were even more apparent.
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:31 pm to jamarr
You’ve seen me post em unlike you who has never supported his claims.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:33 pm to mcspufftiger7
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And no we weren't even close to the top 8 SEC teams in terms of NIL
I have asked these gentlemen many times for evidence of the claims McMahon was well funded relative to the competition but they don't seem to have it.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:35 pm to jamarr
No you were provided this information in the spring the first time you tried this narrative. You're now lying about not ever seeing it which is what you do because you’re a troll.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:35 pm to covtgr
quote:McMackinnon. I'm not saying anything about LSU MBB until halfway into the SEC schedule. No more BS for McHallman. Time to put up or shut up or it's BK/SW/JS/FW/BD/AA/CH territory for him! (Yall smart enough to know who all the initialed individuals are)
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