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re: LSU is not a rebuild. LSU hired O to avoid a rebuild.

Posted on 9/20/17 at 11:47 am to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66520 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 11:47 am to
Well you're wrong about the thread title and subject matter (no suprise you're wrong about everything els) but you're right about having a problem with dishonesty, you can't control your own.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 11:47 am to
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You keep bringing up a hurricane that had no bearing on the game.


It must have had some kind of bearing on the game. The game was moved from a Saturday night game to a Monday night game.

quote:

We were up by 21 points in the 4th quarter


No we weren't. We were up 21-0 at halftime. We were up 24-7 to start the 4th quarter and Tennessee out scored us 17-0 in the fourth to send the game to overtime.

It was a bad loss, but not as bad as last Saturdays loss to Mississippi State in my opinion.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 11:49 am to
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Semantics, this melt was brought on by Saturdays game not what O did 10 years ago and not Arandas reputation. You can't make judgments based on one thing then when the logic doesn't hold jump to something totally different to justify it.
The people who viewed O's hire as dumb didn't just start thinking that last week.

And, are you fricking reading? "Judgments based on one thing"? LOL We hired someone with no fricking resume. THAT was the judgment from the outset.

The fact we are leading the fricking nation in penalties this year and are an undisciplined mess leading up to a joke of an effort on Monday are simply the initial evidence supporting the judgment.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115589 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 11:50 am to
It must be comfortable in that bubble you're living in
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 11:51 am to
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he has already posted that he blames the coordinators for the loss and cant find a single thing O did wrong.

his post in my thread..

I can't help but do this.

Welcome to the world of everyone who ever talked to the Miles pumpers prior to the year 2016. It's irrational. Isn't it!
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66520 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 11:52 am to
We've already gone over that I made a mistake it was 24-7. And yes if the game were Saturday it would've been affected it was moved to Monday so it wouldn't be. Btw I wanted to comment on one of your post last night. I owe you an apology Earl, I've read a lot if your list this week and I've been surprised about how objective and on point you've been about eveything. For whatever it's worth I was wrong about you. As far as rating the loss to me they're equally bad. If a game isn't what I'd call a good loss, (competitive game where the opponent made a great play to win or we didn't give the game away) to me it's bad. I don't have a lot of layers for bad losses.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 11:58 am
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60711 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 11:52 am to
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offense was a problem but its most definitely overlooked if we are winning 10& 11 games a year
. Yes, it was.

And Fans wouldn't have been restless f the offense had been effective, even w 9 wins.

shite if 21-0 was 21-20 fans would've been much happier. It wasn't his record that caused the groundswell of the fire Miles crowd.
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2015 offense finished above bama, fsu, and ohio state in offensive yards per game and offensive points per game.
way to ignore my wording. Our stats against Bama and Arky were so dismal that a coach that was 7-0 and a Top 5 team two weeks earlier was essentially being fired.

If we produce at all in those games Miles isn't even close to being canned. That is the truth.

The whims of the fans and their dissatisfaction (mainly around the offense) is the reason Miles was run.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466203 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 11:53 am to
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We hired someone with no fricking resume

he has a resume

it's just a terrible one
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66520 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 11:54 am to
I guess you're stance on hypocrisy was bullshite too lol.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 11:55 am to
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It's like explaining physics to a 3 year old

Yes.

Because when teams consider their win/loss "pace", they assume their "pace" will be roughly the same while playing the meat of their schedule as it will be while playing their cupcakes.

After 2 games, that means we were "on pace" to win 14!!!!
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115589 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 11:57 am to
How exactly. Use your words
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66520 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:01 pm to
Wow, look the season can be separated into 4 quarters of 3 games each. After the first quarter of our season we have 2 wins, multiply that by 4 and you get 8 wins which is how many we were predicted to have.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94769 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:04 pm to
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It was a bad loss, but not as bad as last Saturdays loss to Mississippi State in my opinion.


Keep in mind that prior to that game, LSU was 5-19-3 against Tennessee over the history of the series.

Collectively, ALL LSU coaches from inception through Gerry Dinardo (although Dinardo never played Tennessee and I'm sure other coaches didn't) went a collective, by my count, 3-18-3 against the Volunteers.

Saban went 2-1 against them, and Miles was 4-1. Saban and Miles each required OT to defeat Tennessee once, and Miles' sole loss against them in the series (only Mac and Moore played them as many times) was in OT. Moore never beat them. Dietzel lost his only game against them, and Mac went 1-3-1 against them.

Relative to our record versus Tennessee, at least prior to Saban, our record against Alabama can be considered downright respectable.

Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115589 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:05 pm to
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Wow, look the season can be separated into 4 quarters of 3 games each. After the first quarter of our season we have 2 wins, multiply that by 4 and you get 8 wins which is how many we were predicted to have.





We don't play BYU and Chattanooga (or teams of that level for every "quarter" of the season. That 8 wins is with the expectation we would win all 3 of the games we've played so far
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66520 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:06 pm to
Listen dude, you're not interested in an open dialog about football you're here to start shite and try to impress yourself by lording your opinion over others and attack any opposition with your quips and barbs. First off those quips and barbs aren't clever or funny partly because you're almost always wrong and off with them. Secondly I don't like people like you I find you boring and repulsive so let's just avoid any farther correspondence ok.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 12:08 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466203 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:07 pm to
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look the season can be separated into 4 quarters of 3 games each

do we get to play a 1AA team 3 more times?
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40086 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:08 pm to
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Listen dude, you're not interested in an open dialog about football

Give me 1 legit reason that you believe Orgeron can or will turn things around. Not simply "give it time!"
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:08 pm to
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Wow, look the season can be separated into 4 quarters of 3 games each. After the first quarter of our season we have 2 wins, multiply that by 4 and you get 8 wins which is how many we were predicted to have.


Nice dodge
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
11920 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:08 pm to
I agree with OP to a point. However, can we not all acknowledge that we are very thin in many areas? Yes, O was recruiting the last two years, but he wasn't ultimately responsible for the classes.

Were people expecting a National Championship this year? Would people have been less upset if we'd have lost by 3 on a late field goal.

We all know how this works. Orgeron isn't getting fired this year. Two bad seasons back to back.... maybe.

I remember in 2014 going into Florida that I thought we would have a losing season. We turned it around. If I learned anything from that year is we have to see how things play out.

I just don't understand the complete and utter meltdown.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66520 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:09 pm to
As per usual get away from the facts and use subjectivity to push your narrative.
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