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re: LSU hires William & Mary’s Offensive Coordinator as an offensive analyst

Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:47 pm to
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I don't understand the negative reactions. It just boggles the mind.



He was the offensive coordinator of a bad offense. But if neither he nor any other analyst has any actual responsibility at LSU I couldn't care less how bad he was as a coach.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:50 pm to
I bet he knows what's good at Paul's Deli in Williamsburg, though. It's the place to be Wednesday: 2-4-1 Coronas.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:52 pm to
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The ignorant comments in this thread shouldn't be surprising but this is the rant.


I know. I especially like this one:

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Another good hire. These analysts will pay dividends down the road.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26737 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:53 pm to
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So should we care that we're hiring analysts or not? Honest question. People seemed to make a big deal out of it at first but when the actual credentials of said analysts are brought up there seems to be a lot of "who cares?". If they're just coffee mules and errand boys then I'm just not going to react one way or the other when we hire one.


People should be happy that we are hiring them, because the more people the better. Who the individual coaches are is not as important, although it is possible that a diamond in the rough can be found and get elevated to an on-field spot.

They aren't coffee boys and errand runners. They do grunt coaching work, like breaking down film and looking for trends.

For example, one guy may watch every Florida game for the past three years and make a cut of all the trick plays. Or all the third and long plays. Or all the goalline plays.

They may breakdown our own film and show a QB every read that he missed, or every interception and where it should've gone.

It's like a young recent college graduate working at an hedge fund. He may be just analyzing trends and segments. He's not a hedge fund manager and no one is going, "they hired a dude and he's not even a hedge fund manager. He sucks"
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26737 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:55 pm to
You don't think a former D1 offensive coordinator is qualified to breakdown film and assist with game planning?

You are showing your bias and stupidity.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:59 pm to
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You don't think a former D1 offensive coordinator is qualified to breakdown film and assist with game planning?



Yes, of course he is, but the people calling this a "good hire" are just as bad as those acting as if this hire is going to have any significant effect on our offense.
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 3:01 pm
Posted by bengalfan50
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2009
2467 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:00 pm to
Analyst are there to break down film and map tendencies of opponents from the coach, team defense, team offense, down and distance of O & D, all the way down to player tendencies.
He may be a crappy coach but a wizard at breaking down film and that's all he will do is break down opposing film, he will never coach a down at LSU.
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:04 pm to
What’s to hate ? This is another tremendous hire by Eaux
Posted by TheTexasTiger7
Dallas - Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:12 pm to
They are a division 2 team....
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:15 pm to
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UpToPar


At least people don't have to wonder how retarded you are. You've put it out there for all to see.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:17 pm to
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We're doing this again? He's a fricking analyst. If he was an awesome, ready for the big time coach, he wouldn't be an analyst. They breakdown film and look for trends, etc. It's an entry level or transitional type position.

You're acting like he's hired as the new OC, lol.




You ever hear of "garbage in, garbage out?"
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:19 pm to
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Yes, of course he is, but the people calling this a "good hire" are just as bad as those acting as if this hire is going to have any significant effect on our offense



No retard. It's the fact that they're finally getting with the game and hiring analysts to begin with. If you can't understand that it will help the program moving forward you have to be brain damaged.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22153 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:21 pm to
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No retard. It's the fact that they're finally getting with the game and hiring analysts to begin with.


So then, it's simply a good decision to hire analysts, right? Not necessarily that this was a good analyst hire.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26737 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:21 pm to
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You ever hear of "garbage in, garbage out?"


Sure. Don't see it applicable to this situation.

Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:24 pm to
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then, it's simply a good decision to hire analysts, right? Not necessarily that this was a good analyst hire



I'm sure that the guy will be competent at his job. It's a good hire. There's no reason whatsoever to be negative about this. It's pure ignorance.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:25 pm to
His entire job is to interpret and provide data to the offensive coordinator.
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 3:27 pm
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22153 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:26 pm to
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I'm sure that the guy will be competent at his job. It's a good hire.


Why? Just a guess? A gut feeling? Are you familiar with his offensive philosophy? His ability to study and breakdown film? Is there anything other than pure speculation that this is actually a good hire?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26737 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:27 pm to
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So then, it's simply a good decision to hire analysts, right? Not necessarily that this was a good analyst hire.


Pretty well correct. Although hiring a D1 OC is probably above the curve of most analyst hires. Many are former high school coaches or players trying to break into college coaching (Like Brad Kragthorpe, who turned an analyst gig into an NFL job). Of course you get the occasional Sarkisian rehab hire, but that's not the norm.

William and Mary is D1 FCS level (not D2 as another poster suggested)
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26737 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:31 pm to
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Are you familiar with his offensive philosophy?


Analysts don't have offensive philosophies. Just take the L and move on.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:31 pm to
Well, I can see how it works for the analyst.

How does hiring an analyst that wasn't particularly good at his previous job benefit LSU?
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