re: LSU has Pro Style Talent on Offense but runs a Hully Gully schem

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And I'm gonna cry when next year mett is starting and it'll be "his" fault.

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It's gonna be sad to watch. I'm very skeptical of the crowton offense. Obviously.

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JJ is the least accurate QB in the leauge.

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Last year, he was in #30s nationally, so what ever they're doing with him needs undone.

When Jimbo Fisher was here, all we heard about was how we should be a spread team and utilize our 'superior team speed' on offense. I guess we've come full circle.

Stanford is better than LSU this year can we just accept that fake. Everyone knows Crowton is awful. God awful and he should be fired. But did you see the holes Stanford's O-Line created? They had 3 holes last night LSU hasn't had the entire year. Oh yah, they also have the #1 overall draft pick at the most important position on the field.

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runs a scheme.

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We don't run plays that compliment each other. No constraints.
We see lots of MOFO coverage,, yet have Wrs on outs to sides and no Wr down the middle when our few best pass plays have been over the middle. No reasoning to most of the play calls outside of read option.

O-line isn't dominant enough to run a pro scheme.

I thought that was an established fact.

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I don't think the spread option is Crowton's first choice. It was forced on him at Oregon.



This is 100% false.

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Here ya go...

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Second question in the article...
Q: How did Oregon target Kelly, then an assistant coach at the University of New Hampshire, as the next Oregon football coach?

A: Mike Bellotti figured that out. And it's a little bit of a long story. But Bellotti lost to Utah (in 2005). (Then-Utah head coach) Urban Meyer was running the spread (offense) -- one of the early adopters of the spread. In fact, some people credit him with being the inventor. Bellotti, when he saw that system, said, "We could use some of that. Literally, maybe within a year or two later, he decided to put in a spread. ... He sent (offensive coordinator Gary Crowton) down to work with Urban Meyer. So he went down there and the offensive coordinator for Florida was Dan Mullen, who's now the head coach of Mississippi State -- I told you this was a long story. Anyway, (Mullen's) from New Hampshire. And he says, "The guy who really knows this stuff is Chip Kelly up at the University of New Hampshire." So Crowton, when he came back he had some rough edges to the spread and he started calling Chip Kelly on Sundays saying, "This came up and I didn't quite know what to do with it." And Chip always had an answer. So, when LSU came and picked up Crowton, Bellotti knew he'd been talking to Chip Kelly, so he went to get Chip Kelly.


I take this to mean that Crowton wasn't running the spread before he was sent to Florida and then to Chip Kelly.

You're wrong.

Crowton ran a form of the spread at La Tech and then ran his current form while at BYU between 2001-2004.

He was hired to Oregon in 2005 to bring in the spread. He got worked by Urban Meyer in 2005 who just ran it better than Crowton (I'll pause briefly so that people can gasp from the shock of that sentence.) Crowton was sent to Kelly and Meyer to learn what they were doing that he was not.

Make no mistake about it. Gary Crowton has been running a similar offense since his BYU days.

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i still don't understand what a pro-style scheme is.

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Mythical thing-that-works. New England just needs to get on board & start running a pro-style attack like Stanford.

Both JJ & JL came out of high school as pro style QBs but Crowton decided this year and last that he would run a spread option.

JJ was not an option QB in high school, nor did he play in a spread system but to offset the shite storm of a OL in 09 they turned him into that.

Look at the way he throws from 08 and then at this year. Why did they change his throwing motion?

He has more designed runs and options this year than last and what for?

Would a guy that had TD-INT 17-7, 2100yds, 60%+ CMP rating, and number 2 in the FBS in redzone efficiency (only behind Kellen Moore), ran for another 170+ yds even though he got sacked 32 times behind the worst OL in ages, turn out to be really this bad his second year starting without somebody making him do something he is not good at. He was terrible in the RZ this year.

The guy was basically a redshirt freshman with a terrible OL in run blocking and pass protection, with no running game and a mediocre defense.

He played 12 games in 09' and only recorded 296 pass attempts. JL played started about 8 games in 08' and played a little in a few others but he also recorded 296 pass attempts. This year JJ has thrown a hundred less passes but runs like 3 times as much. Crowton is trying to mask the OL by turning him into a running QB which is something he is not. And I don't care what you say, but the only thing JL has over JJ is a quicker release. If they focused on improving his release (like a QB coach is supposed to do) instead of trying to turn him into a running QB then we would be alright.

GC & LM have said on numerous occasions this year that they want to run the ball, establish the run to win games. So now you turn a pocket passer with wheels into a damn running back at QB.

And like what the other guy said, its going to be funny how they frick up Mett next year if Crowton stays. You'll see the truth next year believe me. Your eyes will be wide open then.