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re: LSU has a blue chip ratio of 73%

Posted on 7/22/25 at 10:24 am to
Posted by cattus
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Posted on 7/22/25 at 10:24 am to
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This post was edited on 7/22/25 at 10:26 am
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
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Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:47 am to
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This makes no sense. It should be easy for them to figure this out. It’s who is on the current roster. Why should 4 years ago matter?


If they are in the team it should matter

Ironically we get crest for Walker Howard, but not for Nuss or Hilton
Posted by JakeRStephenes
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Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:20 pm to
Talk to me after Game 1.
Posted by Sissidog02
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Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:49 pm to
Who’s EVAN?
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
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Posted on 7/22/25 at 3:45 pm to
Yeah it’s off. Bama’s still has Downs and Sayin.
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
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Posted on 7/22/25 at 4:21 pm to
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Clay Travis shows that during 1996-2014, every national championship team, except for Oklahoma in 2000, had at least two top 10 recruiting classes in the four years before the title. So, he concludes that, “football success has followed recruiting success.

This, like the original assertion about BCR, is simply flawed logic. For example:

"100% of Heisman winning QBs the last 40 years have had two arms. LSU's QB room is full of guys who all have two arms. Therefore, LSU is a lock to have a Heisman winning QB."

The question to ask is, how many teams have had a BCR rate over 50% (or at least two top 10 recruiting classes in a four year stretch) that haven't won a title; THAT'S how you show a correlation. This year alone (according to the graph posted earlier), at least eight teams with a BCR of 70% or higher will NOT win the National Championship. So it is kind of silly to suggest that a BCR of 50% or higher is some sort of indicator for the National Championship.

How many teams are there even that don't have a BCR of at least 50%?

Posted by Supermoto Tiger
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Posted on 7/22/25 at 4:37 pm to
They track portal players. "Typically" most portal players are not 5 star players and that lowers the average rating.
Matt explains it best on today's (or yesterday's) Locked on LSU podcast.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/22/25 at 4:39 pm to
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How many teams are there even that don't have a BCR of at least 50%?

If I understood correctly, there are only 18 teams with a BCR of 50% or more.

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This, like the original assertion about BCR, is simply flawed logic. For example:

"100% of Heisman winning QBs the last 40 years have had two arms. LSU's QB room is full of guys who all have two arms. Therefore, LSU is a lock to have a Heisman winning QB."


ETA: The BCR only started in 2011. So it's 100% accurate since it's inception. I highly suggest listening to the Lock On LSU podcast for detailed explanation
This post was edited on 7/22/25 at 4:44 pm
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 9:23 pm to
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100% of Heisman winning QBs the last 40 years have had two arms. LSU's QB room is full of guys who all have two arms. Therefore, LSU is a lock to have a Heisman winning QB
This is not at all analogous. Not even close

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So it is kind of silly to suggest that a BCR of 50% or higher is some sort of indicator for the National Championship
Absolutely, completely wrong. There could be year after year of teams with a lower BCR that win it all. That would blow up the correlation. We don't see that at all. In fact, a number like 52% is the outlier. Every other number was HIGHER
Posted by JMMarine
Rayne La
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 12:43 am to
Here's a breakdown of the Blue-Chip Ratio for the last 25 national champions (since 2000):
2024: Ohio State (90%)
2023: Michigan (54%)
2022: Georgia (77%)
2021: Georgia (80%)
2020: Alabama (83%)
2019: LSU (64%)
2018: Clemson (61%)
2017: Alabama (80%)
2016: Clemson (52%)
2015: Alabama (77%)
2014: Ohio State (68%)
2013: Florida State (53%)
2012: Alabama (71%)
2011: Alabama (71%)
2010: Auburn (63%)
2009: Alabama (82%)
2008: Florida (70%)
2007: LSU (72%)
2006: Florida (67%)
2005: Texas (71%)
2004: USC (75%)
2003: LSU (67%)
2002: Ohio State (70%)
2001: Miami (77%)
Pretty interesting
Posted by JMMarine
Rayne La
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 12:50 am to
So after calculating the 25 BC ratios it come up to1,695 divided by 25 seasons averages out to a 67.80 ratio. Pretty interesting !!
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:06 am to
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Absolutely, completely wrong.

Okay. So if BCR is such an accurate indicator, please explain how well over 75% of the teams with a BCR over 50% will not with the National Championship this year?

Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 11:02 am to
What teams had 50% or higher yet did not win the Natty?
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 11:02 am to
Thank you
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12731 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 11:32 am to
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What teams had 50% or higher yet did not win the Natty?

According to the chart posted earlier, at least 8 teams have higher than that this year. According to another poster, it's actually 18 teams. Obviously, only one of them can win the national championship (at most), so at least 7 (or 17) will not, despite having an FCR over 50%.

Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:55 pm to
So the blue chip rating may be a necessary but insufficient aspect of winning a Natty
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