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re: LSU fans: quit comparing Lee to McCoy

Posted on 4/4/09 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by True Bengal
Texas
Member since Jan 2009
787 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 9:23 pm to
Poor guy. You are working really hard and seem really desparate to save face.

Don't worry about it.

And if stating facts while wishing Lee improvement (which I've stated multiple times) because we need both he and Jefferson next season = ragging, then so be it.

You have a serious problem reading, understanding, and telling the truth.

Poor guy.

"Interceptions per Attempt" - don't run from it. Why use Ints per game? It's easier to use Ints/Attempts and is a more apples-to-apples comparison.

Nice move to get away from the three SEC QBs you tried to throw out there. I see you're going to search the planet, now.

Poor guy.
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Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33237 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 9:27 pm to
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You have a serious problem reading, understanding, and telling the truth.

Yeah, I have a serious problem understanding how this:
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How do you explain one QB standing out not only in the conference, but the nation for throwing INTs? Surely, the other SEC QBs should have had at least 16 picks as well.

translates into this:
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And if stating facts while wishing Lee improvement = ragging, then so be it.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16681 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 9:27 pm to
Lee didnt play a full season nor did he have anywhere close to the amount of passing attempts as some of those QB's. Please explain to me how these QB's did worse than JL when they all have a way better TD/INT ratio than JL.

Chase Daniels 528pass attempts 73% 39td/18int
Clausen 440pass att 25td/17int
Johnson(Tulsa)400pass att 46td/18int

JL 269pass attempts 13td/16int


Kevin Craft from UCLA is terrible.

RobbRobb you are dumb brah.
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Posted by True Bengal
Texas
Member since Jan 2009
787 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 9:31 pm to
THANK YOU!!!

Robboobie = Jarrett Lee

The bad thing is that JL is not a bad guy. He just had a bad year, but because of Robboobie being such a girlfriend, folks have to really put JL out there.

We need JJ and JL. Fans have to just stop lying about how bad he was and just hope for improvement.

"Reading, Understanding, and Honesty" - Robboobie. You are a question mark, but at least you know how to pick a school to root for. We'll just make sure you don't do any interviews on behalf of LSU.

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Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 9:37 pm to
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Fans have to just stop lying about how bad he was and just hope for improvement.


Posted by True Bengal
Texas
Member since Jan 2009
787 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 9:39 pm to
Your problem understanding is because you are cherry-picking my posts to support your pointless agenda.

Do you work for FoxNews?

Too bad anyone can click on my name and see my full posts and don't have to rely on your half-arse attempts to save face.
Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 9:44 pm to
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Snead, 10 INTs in 327 attempts.
Smelley, 15 INTs in 302 attempts.
Dick, 14 INTs in 357 attempts.
Lee, 16 INTs in 269 attempts.


JR
JR
SR
red shirt fresh

maybe its just me, but I would think that is worth mentioning.
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Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 9:51 pm to
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maybe its just me, but I would think that is worth mentioning.


Is it also worth mentioning that LSU has a much better supporting cast offensively on top of a better OC than any of those other teams?
Posted by True Bengal
Texas
Member since Jan 2009
787 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 9:51 pm to
Actually, Snead and Smelley were both sophomores.

You'd have to read the rest of the thread to see how the other QBs and comparisons came in.

No one is feasting on JL. Just making a point that he had a bad season and fans just have to admit and move on instead of blaming other players and making excuses.
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Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16681 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 9:53 pm to
RobbRobb wanted to point out that those QB did worse than JL, which isnt true. I take consideration that JL was a RSFR, but that doesnt change the fact that he regress as the season went on and overall, he was one of the worst QB's in CFB last season.

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Far more recognizable, highly touted, and way more experienced QBs than JLee, did worse against NON-SEC defenses.


Posted by Enfuego
Uptown
Member since Mar 2009
9952 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 9:54 pm to
pretty awful comparison imo. even if Lee turns out to be good, mccoy and lee are two totally different qb's.
Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 9:55 pm to
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Is it also worth mentioning that LSU has a much better supporting cast offensively on top of a better OC than any of those other teams?


maybe, doesnt change the point i was making that age and experience count for somthing and all those guys listed along side LEE are older and have more exp.
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 9:57 pm to
Sure it chances things. You may have a senior QB at Vandy and a FR QB at LSU, but you have to take into account who they play with when looking at their stats.
Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 9:58 pm to
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RobbRobb wanted to point out that those QB did worse than JL, which isnt true. I take consideration that JL was a RSFR, but that doesnt change the fact that he regress as the season went on and overall,


sorta like the rest of our team.

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he was one of the worst QB's in CFB last season.


once agian sorta like the rest of out team (defense anyways)

Last year is over. Get over it.
If JL is still making same mistakes this season as last, then fine... he needs to sit or go somewhere else.
If not, JJ had better step his game up as well.
Posted by True Bengal
Texas
Member since Jan 2009
787 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 10:03 pm to
Snead was a sophomore and first year in the SEC.

Lee was a second year Freshman.
Smelley a second year Sophomore.

The only guy right of high school is Jefferson with two starts under his belt. He may still seem like a freshmen next season and thats why Lee's progression is just as important as JJ's.

Agreed. Both JJ and JL will have to make alot of progress to get what the team will need from the QB position next season. Like this past season, after the starter and backup QBs, we will be very inexperienced.
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Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33237 posts
Posted on 4/5/09 at 12:33 am to
Dude, you got issues. Just in this thread alone:

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How can anyone understand what you are saying?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175441 posts
Posted on 4/5/09 at 12:38 am to
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Snead, 10 INTs in 327 attempts.
Smelley, 15 INTs in 302 attempts.
Dick, 14 INTs in 357 attempts.
Lee, 16 INTs in 269 attempts.
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JR
JR
SR
red shirt fresh

maybe its just me, but I would think that is worth mentioning.

Then look at how many fewer pass attempts Lee had, yet he still had more interceptions. Imagine if Lee had thrown it 375 times instead of only 269. That's 106 more passes. Lee would have had 23+ picks.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16681 posts
Posted on 4/5/09 at 12:51 am to
if he was given the starting job, JL can have a turnaround year like Matt Stafford IMO. I dont think JL will have that opportunity though. Starting off the year, LSU's schedule is fairly easy. JJ will use that time to lock down the QB position.

Stafford(fr) 135/256 1749yds 52.7% 7td/13int
(soph) 194/348 2523yds 55.7 19td/10int

UGA went 11-2 and finished top5.
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
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the frick?
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 4/5/09 at 2:05 am to
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Smelley, 15 INTs in 302 attempts.
Dick, 14 INTs in 357 attempts.
Lee, 16 INTs in 269 attempts.
I wasn't aware of that. . .

That is pretty damning evidence.
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