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re: LSU D approach vs. GT
Posted on 12/22/08 at 4:26 pm to Purplehaze
Posted on 12/22/08 at 4:26 pm to Purplehaze
"Against Alabama in the early 70's, LSU did very well against the wishbone. Bama always managed to get that one spectacular scoring play. "
All I remember is losing to them from 1971 through 1980 when they quit running the wishbone. Those "one spectacular" are what kills you on defense.
Quite often it was a forty yard pass to the one wide receiver or tight end for a TD.
All I remember is losing to them from 1971 through 1980 when they quit running the wishbone. Those "one spectacular" are what kills you on defense.
Quite often it was a forty yard pass to the one wide receiver or tight end for a TD.
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Posted on 12/22/08 at 4:51 pm to SBJ
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We completely shut down their full back run in the first half, completely. And didn't really give them much of it in the 2nd half though they were a little more successful with it then, but nothing dramatic. What killed us was that Johnson realized we were committing so much to stopping the full back dive, they kept running the speed sweep and getting out on the end which meant a DB or S had to come up and make the play most of the time on the perimeter.
Good analysis.
The GT-VT game early in the season went much the same way. They completely shut us down up the middle, and Johnson went to the outside. Dwyer only had about 25 yards in the VT game -- it was his worst game of the season by far.
The big difference in the VT and UGA games, from the GT D vs. opp's O point of view, was that GT had -3 turnovers against VT, and effectively +2 vs. UGA (which both led to immediate touchdowns).
It's true for any offense but maybe even more true for GT's: with an even or positive turnover margin, the Jackets are probably gonna win.
Posted on 12/22/08 at 6:11 pm to footballislife
quote:+1
This really scares the hell out of me. I am not sure our defensive staff or coach Miles knew what that ment this past season.
Posted on 12/22/08 at 9:02 pm to SBJ
they need some heart and they got to blitz this team. make GT do things they don't want to do.
Posted on 12/23/08 at 8:27 am to SBJ
The other adjustment is we got our BB (you guys call it FB...Dwyer) outside on the option instead of the TO. This also gave us another blocker in the AB (you guys call it the slotback) on play side. Dwyer does not need a lot of space to bust it on this play.
Posted on 12/23/08 at 8:30 am to SBJ
Go to a 5-2. Have the fastest DE's playing DE. Subbing the DT's for the sub DE's every other series. Playing a zone with this package but cover 1 or 0 each time. Having the ends or CB's covering the sidelines. Making sure that when the end and db's are both covering, one takes out qb and one takes out rb.
Posted on 12/23/08 at 8:36 am to lsusportsman2
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they got to blitz this team.
Blitz an option team? Man, you must want GT to break long runs all day long.
This is all about assignment football. It takes much discipline to do this. One of the biggest keys is sure tackling. One broken tackle can lead to a long TD run.
Posted on 12/23/08 at 8:46 am to JustSmokin
Stopping the option is about pressure.........You have to stop it before it starts.
Posted on 12/23/08 at 8:57 am to SBJ
the bottom line is the TO gives the offense 11 on 11...so our guys have to defeat their blocker and made sure tackles
If LSU can do that, their punter will be getting a lot of action. If they can't defeat their man or make sure tackles, it's going to be a big day on the ground. Schemes and discipline are all a factor, but it boils down to beating your man and making tackles when you have a chance.
If LSU can do that, their punter will be getting a lot of action. If they can't defeat their man or make sure tackles, it's going to be a big day on the ground. Schemes and discipline are all a factor, but it boils down to beating your man and making tackles when you have a chance.
Posted on 12/23/08 at 8:58 am to L S Usetheforce
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Stopping the option is about pressure.........You have to stop it before it starts.
Not necessarily. It is about stopping the outside threats.
Posted on 12/23/08 at 9:05 am to footballislife
That was Larry Lacewell and he coached with Switzer.
Posted on 12/23/08 at 9:15 am to L S Usetheforce
quote:Ding ding ding!
Stopping the option is about pressure.........You have to stop it before it starts.
Assignment football will slow it down, maybe force us to pass more than we want...but won't necessarily stop it. Even when UGA managed to play their assignments we were still getting 3-5 yards/play because by the time we made the dive read, keep read, pitch read(then pitched) we would already be a few yards up the field.
Busting through the OL and stopping the play before it starts is the only way to "stop" it(as in any offense, really).
Some teams were fairly successful with this early on...but our OL has really come together well the last half of the season, and they deserve more credit than they are getting for the overall improvement this team has seen throughout the season.
Posted on 12/23/08 at 9:17 am to TechinItEasy
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Busting through the OL and stopping the play before it starts is the only way to "stop" it(as in any offense, really).
And what defense can do this multiple times during game?
Posted on 12/23/08 at 9:35 am to ZeeDustin
quote:Not many(at least when our OL is clicking)...look at Johnson's record at GSU when he played on an equal playing field(not at Navy where 13 games out of every year he had less talent, by a large margin, than the other team)
And what defense can do this multiple times during game?
Posted on 12/23/08 at 9:37 am to TechinItEasy
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Not many
So stopping the outside is better than trying to explode through the middle right?
Posted on 12/23/08 at 9:51 am to ZeeDustin
quote:It's neither better nor worse. They are both equally necessary.
So stopping the outside is better than trying to explode through the middle right?
You made the comment that not many teams can rely on breaking up plays consistently. I will contend that not many teams can rely on their safeties/corners making consistent unassisted open field tackles against a runningback.
But if you ignore one area to beef up the other, we will simply take advantage of the area you ignored.
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