- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: LSU Compliance
Posted on 10/18/17 at 3:42 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Posted on 10/18/17 at 3:42 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
quote:
In addition to the ones listed, you can't fire someone for being too good at their job. We got patted on the back by the NCAA for the DJ McCarthy situation.
They could easily reassign him or promote him. This tells me he loves his current position and likely enjoys the power.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 3:57 pm to adamb2151
Or the admin doesn't feel like it's worth the risk. As someone who follows recruiting, I can't stand the guy but there's no denying he has kept our nose clean. Russell Shepard, Akiem Hicks, and more recently women's tennis have all been situations where compliance was able to talk the NCAA into a slap on the wrist because they had covered all their bases and self reported everything.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 4:02 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Gotta keep a close eye on The Rosy Finch Boyz. He started the party at Ole Miss.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 4:23 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
LSU Compliance
quote:lol, apropos
Draconian Sanctions
The goal is to have a fully independent compliance department based on the theory of if the coaches can influence it, they will, and not towards the side of caution. The last thing they want is the inmates running the asylum. So they went to the extreme where our compliance does not serve nor is accountable to the sports programs, only the admin.
AND, the mandate of not having violations. It's like at your work where they say the goal is to have zero accidents. It always swings toward the side of ultra-conservative, no risks.
So their mandate leads to them avoiding anything other than the straight and narrow. Hence a gray area is the same as a black area. It's viewed as binary, if it's not permissible, it is a violation.
The problem is so many NCAA rules are vague, but also there are areas not covered. Is twitter a contact or a bump? (example). And not just technological. No rule prohibits a past player from being at practice, even participating. Stipends is another.
Some schools will get reigned in when they've crossed into grey areas.
Some schools actively seek grey areas to use.
LSU avoids them like the plague, if it's not good it's bad.
I think step 1 would to have representatives for the programs in the compliance office. At least they would have more of a voice.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 4:37 pm to adamb2151
From that picture, dude def gives off the kid toucher vibe...
Posted on 10/18/17 at 4:40 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Brilliant satirical question. Wait, you’re not joking? You are seriously upset that we have someone who keeps us out of NCAA trouble?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 4:50 pm to Hoguester
Realistically, he is being overzealous and unyielding which will in turn be problematic. The issues I understand most of the athletic coaches and their staffs are having is not that they are trying to violate any types of NCAA rules/bylaws.
It's that they are walking on eggshells at all times and that is not conducive to getting the best out of our teams. This is a fact. If you are doing everything worrying about the long term consequences for every little step, you will make mistakes or decisions that aren't necessarily needed and making your job harder.
In the end, Bahnsen seems to simply be a guy that loves to hold his power of people and it is not shocking. He was well known for having all kinds of issues with Saban, and it is pretty clear he is having a dick measuring contest with his contemporaries in the athletics department. Furthermore, he's doing everything he can to stay in power and the simplest way is to be overly harsh and strict, not because it is in LSU's best interest, but because it is in his. If LSU were to fire him, people would claim that they want to "bend" the rules and he wouldn't allow it. If they shift him, same thing, and the NCAA may use it as an excuse to investigate.
All teams make mistakes, most which are unintentional and in many cases understandable. That doesn't matter if the NCAA comes snooping around.
Everyone thinking Bahnsen gives a damn about anyone but himself and is doing this out of some unwavering love for LSU is deluding themselves. He's in it for himself and its pretty obvious.
It's that they are walking on eggshells at all times and that is not conducive to getting the best out of our teams. This is a fact. If you are doing everything worrying about the long term consequences for every little step, you will make mistakes or decisions that aren't necessarily needed and making your job harder.
In the end, Bahnsen seems to simply be a guy that loves to hold his power of people and it is not shocking. He was well known for having all kinds of issues with Saban, and it is pretty clear he is having a dick measuring contest with his contemporaries in the athletics department. Furthermore, he's doing everything he can to stay in power and the simplest way is to be overly harsh and strict, not because it is in LSU's best interest, but because it is in his. If LSU were to fire him, people would claim that they want to "bend" the rules and he wouldn't allow it. If they shift him, same thing, and the NCAA may use it as an excuse to investigate.
All teams make mistakes, most which are unintentional and in many cases understandable. That doesn't matter if the NCAA comes snooping around.
Everyone thinking Bahnsen gives a damn about anyone but himself and is doing this out of some unwavering love for LSU is deluding themselves. He's in it for himself and its pretty obvious.
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 10/18/17 at 5:24 pm to Hoguester
quote:The fully independent compliance department is a plus. You DON'T want them beholden to your coaches.
Brilliant satirical question. Wait, you’re not joking? You are seriously upset that we have someone who keeps us out of NCAA trouble?
However, they can work within the framework of being 'a resource' rather than 'enforcement'.
Make it more of a partnership. They can help find areas to operate on and the goal should be avoid violations AND find the most advantages for LSU's coaches. In other words, they serve the school/admin, but the programs are their customers... not their wards to be overseen or police.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:26 pm to joeytiger
Bump..... what is going on here??
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News