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re: LSU catchers
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:05 am to LSURussian
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:05 am to LSURussian
quote:True, I wasn't answering 81 in the context of last night. Just that balls in the dirt are called and, IMO, should be.
All 3 of Kiel's wild pitches last night were fast balls hitting the dirt a foot or so in front of the plate.
quote:That was the one that I thought Pap didn't really have a chance with.
One of them hit almost 2 feet in front of and a foot outside the plate.
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:14 am to LSURussian
wild pitch is exactly what it is...WILD, you can attempt to block them, but if you miss or it hits something hard, like shin guard or helmet, you have no idea where it will end up...
i can only assume that not many on here have ever caught...
i can only assume that not many on here have ever caught...
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:17 am to ell_13
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More specifically about Projects post, 2 of those 3 should have been blocked IMO. Calling them "catcher" data points was incorrect but not totally misleading.
Agreed. One of them went almost directly back to the wall behind the plate.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:19 am to theBru
quote:Some catchers "miss" more/less than others. Pap has had issues this year. I don't think that's a reach at all.
wild pitch is exactly what it is...WILD, you can attempt to block them, but if you miss or it hits something hard, like shin guard or helmet, you have no idea where it will end up...
quote:Probably not many. I have. It's the position I was recruited for, although not where I played most games. Meniscus surgery and needs elsewhere.
i can only assume that not many on here have ever caught...
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:21 am to Kim Jong Ir
We needed another pain train to pass by. That's the only reason we were in the game.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 10:21 am
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:22 am to Kim Jong Ir
quote:I thought that was a different sequence. Such a long game, I can't remember the early part of the game well.
Agreed. One of them went almost directly back to the wall behind the plate.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:22 am to LSURussian
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quote:I brushed it off the first time you brought it up, but I agree now. It's a concern.I hold my breath every time a ground ball is hit towards Kramer. It seems his errors are always on his throws, not on his fielding the ball. Either he's nursing a sore arm/shoulder or his confidence is shot and it's a mental thing, or a little of both.
I agree with you guys, but let me offer an alternative theory. Maybe he has too much confidence in his arm and sometimes tries to make throws when he should just hold the ball and live with an infield single. The first one last night when he went deep into the hole toward 3B and tried to throw without being even close to set was a horrible decision and the ball sailed over Slaughter's head. Like my Dad says, maybe Robertson is in love with his arm. Hopefully last night was a wakeup call.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:23 am to Kim Jong Ir
I ain't worried about Robertson. Skip told theriot he was the worst shortstop he had ever seen after a four error game. We'll live 
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:24 am to ell_13
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quote:Agreed. One of them went almost directly back to the wall behind the plate.I thought that was a different sequence
I was not referring to a particular sequence of pitches--just to one of the balls that was not blocked.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:26 am to Kim Jong Ir
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Maybe he has too much confidence in his arm and sometimes tries to make throws when he should just hold the ball and live with an infield single.
I think this is exactly right. He made some amazing plays earlier in the season and now he thinks he can make them every time. He needs to figure out when he can make the play and when to just eat it.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:27 am to Kim Jong Ir
I think Kramer's woes are either a mental thing, or he made so many incredible and difficult plays early in the season that he's not fielding or throwing the ball fundamentally because he's trying to make highlight plays
ETA: it's not a bad thing that he trusts Slaughter though
ETA: it's not a bad thing that he trusts Slaughter though
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 10:29 am
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:29 am to Kim Jong Ir
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:37 am to Brageous
quote:After Theriot committed three costly errors that resulted in unearned runs in two consecutive losses at Georgia, on the flight back to Baton Rouge Skip started having chest pains.
Skip told theriot he was the worst shortstop he had ever seen after a four error game.
When the trainer was called to come check on Skip at the front of the plane he asked, "What's wrong, Skip?'
Skip grabbed his chest and replied, "It's Theriot. I think he's killing me!" True story.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:37 am to LSURussian
Was told that story very recently too
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:38 am to LSURussian
A passed ball is rarely scored in the NCAA. I figure if it hits the glove within a foot or so of the plate the catcher should glove it.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:50 am to ell_13
I know Pap has become the whipping boy on here.
But ell, you wouldn't have wanted to catch Kiel last night.
But ell, you wouldn't have wanted to catch Kiel last night.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:54 am to 81Tiger
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But ell, you wouldn't have wanted to catch Kiel last night.
Nope
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:00 am to LSURussian
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I'm much more concerned about Kramer Robertson's defense now.
I've noticed inaccurate throws from Kramer to 1st from the start of the season. For the most part, Slaughter's made most of them a non-issue.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 11:04 am
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:03 am to 81Tiger
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But ell, you wouldn't have wanted to catch Kiel last night.
He definitely gave him a workout last night!
Defensively, I still think that Pap is our best option.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:04 am to ell_13
he has not been as good as i thought he should be, but he is throwing out runners at a very good rate...
also, i like how he receives the ball, except when he is reaching for those breaking balls and gets called for interference...lol...
and if CPM would have bunted with bases loaded, we probably wouldnt be having this conversation...
also, i like how he receives the ball, except when he is reaching for those breaking balls and gets called for interference...lol...
and if CPM would have bunted with bases loaded, we probably wouldnt be having this conversation...
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