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re: LSU basketball needs to invest in NIL AND in a coach who knows the game

Posted on 2/23/25 at 5:04 am to
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
38100 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 5:04 am to
Shouldn't have cheated. Wade fricked himself.
Posted by Coastrashtiger
Member since Nov 2021
299 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 5:43 am to
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Shouldn't have cheated


Even now as stands today in time and the wild wild west of NIL and the transfer portal. He did not cheat, if literally every single coach of the 350+ universities in D-1 do something similar, albeit and much different levels say at a place like LSU compared to UT Chattanooga, North Texas, or Murray State. Those three schools are important for this segway, he got sloppy and when you know you have the largest bullseye on your back. I believe it was actually contractually stipulated if i’m not mistaken in the reworked one he did with LSU. Given the current state of LSU basketball, whatever sanctions came from it I would have rather taken scholly losses and post season ban for a year or two with Wade, then have had this as it stands now. But there was football, as well as Woodward/Wade dynamic.
Posted by Coastrashtiger
Member since Nov 2021
299 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 6:17 am to
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Saw something yesterday that the wins and losses of each SEC team correlates almost exactly to how much the schools spend in NIL. The 3 worst SEC teams spend the least and LSU is one of the 3. The top teams spend the most. Until you give them a fair shot, you'll never know.



This really inaccurate, nothing against Moscone but this keeps getting parroted. Not that LSU isn’t one of the lowest spenders in NIL, they are. But Arkansas was the biggest spender this offseason in NIL, and are in 11th in the SEC standings. Georgia, Kentucky, Vamdy, Oklahoma, and Texas all spent more than Mississippi State and Missouri and are behind, well behind Mizzou. As in any market, there are market inefficiencies and players that can come cheaper than others and be better players even. My absolute biggest gripe with McMahon has been the transfer portal. As in he may be doing the worst job in power college basketball at utilizing, understanding the dates, reaching out through back channels to guys that are on the fence. Lastly, even with the smaller budget than some SEC teams the money on this team is way out of whack. There were two glaringly bad choices, so even with what we have we missed on it. As in the old days of college basketball when the shoe companies were throwing money like a recently divorced dad at a strip club or the 80s in college football. The best recruiters will find a way to get their guys. I do not mind and for CMM the 2024 class was pretty good finishing at 15th nationally, even higher when you add in Corey Chest redshirted from the 23 class. It has been the last two transfer classes that have absolutely stunk as a whole. Too many of the parts have either not fit, or by the time we got to or 4th and 5th options, who we have currently on the team btw, in the portal the price had gone up on some of those guys and now even for $2-2.6 million was what I was told. There are 20 or 30 teams with smaller budgets in much better shape for the future, present, and are trending up.
Posted by jevins_slickin
Member since Nov 2018
1312 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 6:25 am to
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36412 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 6:51 am to
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The 2nd sport at LSU has ALWAYS been baseball. Are you a new fan?


Number 1 this isn’t true

Numer 2 it’s a dumb response because he’s talking about revenue generation and baseball even at its best doesn’t top mbb even at lsu on that note
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
4197 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 7:48 am to
Yep, homeboy doesn't understand that for AT LEAST HALF of Dale's tenure, basketball was king on the LSU campus.

I was around back then, and I seent it.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17678 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 7:59 am to
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his really inaccurate, nothing against Moscone but this keeps getting parroted. Not that LSU isn’t one of the lowest spenders in NIL, they are. But Arkansas was the biggest spender this offseason in NIL, and are in 11th in the SEC standings. Georgia, Kentucky, Vamdy, Oklahoma, and Texas all spent more than Mississippi State and Missouri and are behind, well behind Mizzou.


This was obvious and it is now clear to me that this was a very focused PR campaign by LSU to feed this narrative to the media to rationalize another year for CMM. It started with Mascona but was either fed to other media outlets or the other outlets followed up on what Mascona said and were pointed in the same direction by our administration as Mascona was.

Regardless of the accuracy and veracity of the numbers, we're going to at least it seems make an effort to increase NIL funding.

The rub is CMM who obviously would rather put his efforts elsewhere (or we'd be better off in that regard) will have to be part of that fundraising campaign....and CMM who I think it's reasonable to question evaluation and roster construction - will be the man making the decisions on who to allocate these new NIL resources to if we do indeed get competitive funding.

Posted by Coastrashtiger
Member since Nov 2021
299 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 8:12 am to
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CMM who I think it's reasonable to question evaluation and roster construction - will be the man making the decisions on who to allocate these new NIL resources to if we do indeed get competitive funding.


Couldn’t agree more, I will say it again think CMM is a good basketball mind, a very good teacher and developer. It’s the simple fact that in the NIL area you are not getting 3-4 years to build it through recruiting. I would have stuck with CMM if no transfer portal. But two of our highest potential players are probably gone at the end of year, or to bring them back they will eat a lot into any added NIL money. Our best player who, got hurt early, nothing that CMM can do about that, and it stings. Especially with the way the Tigers play losing a big like him. But LSU and Jalen will have to make a call on what of course he wants to do. But it will cost a lot to bring him back. There will be a team like an Ole Miss, UCLA, Villanova, or BYU. That will sell themselves on being middle of the pack but within striking distance of the top to add a player like Reed.
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