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re: LSU Baseball...put up or shut up

Posted on 3/29/19 at 9:33 am to
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
51882 posts
Posted on 3/29/19 at 9:33 am to
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but Skip Bertman used to TRY to win all of his games.


Do you seriously think CPM doesn’t try to win?



Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13735 posts
Posted on 3/29/19 at 9:41 am to
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Our hitters approach at the plate is terrible, and that’s on the coach for not having them prepared,


I see this a lot but I’m pretty sure they aren’t teaching the players to take fastball down the middle and swing at breaking balls in the dirt. Cabrera’s last at bat is a prime example. The strike three calls a fastball that is over the middle of the plate. The pitcher missed his spot by a foot. You have to make him pay for that. Players have to make plays when The opportunities happen.

The coaches deserve some blame but the players need to do better. A lot of hitting is see ball hit ball. Last night they didn’t see the starter well at all. They got to their bullpen pitchers for the most part but pitch recognition was bad all night.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13735 posts
Posted on 3/29/19 at 9:51 am to
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Starting slow has become a trend the past 3 years. It worked out well once.


Starting slow and finishing strong has been the trend since CPM got to LSU.

2008 the winning streak started in the middle of sec play.
2009 they were good from start to finish but thy were at their best late in the season.
2010 started horrible and then got hot late and should have made the tourney with a 25 rpi.
2016 they were struggling until the rally opossum game.
2017 they started slow and then got hot late. Coincidentally that also started with an Arkansas collapse.
2018 they weren’t very good but they still played better at the end of the year and made a run to the championship of the sec tournament.
Posted by nps6724
Member since Mar 2019
358 posts
Posted on 3/29/19 at 10:25 am to
I wouldn't count 2009 at all. They started 9-0, won their first 5 SEC series, and only lost 1 SEC series the entire season. They didn't start slow, they just got even better as the season rolled along.

2010 won their first 3 SEC series, but lost 4 of their last 5 while being swept 3 times. They won their last series, won the SEC tourney, and lost in the UCLA regional.

Maybe you meant 2011? They won 3 of their last 4 SEC series with 2 sweeps, but that was after getting swept 3 times themselves. Not making the SEC tourney didn't help.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13735 posts
Posted on 3/29/19 at 10:31 am to
Yea I got 2010 and 2011 mixed up. Point being that CPM’s teams more often than not we’re playing better in May than March
Posted by ktxn1952
East Texas
Member since Aug 2018
939 posts
Posted on 3/29/19 at 10:46 am to
WOW! Novel thoughts!
Posted by nps6724
Member since Mar 2019
358 posts
Posted on 3/29/19 at 12:04 pm to
I think there's a fairly significant difference between "playing better in May than March" and "needing a May hot streak to salvage the season".

2011 regular season: 25-15 (4-14) before the Kentucky series, 11-3 (9-3) after.

2016 regular season: 27-16 (11-10) before the Arkansas series, 11-1 (8-1) after.

2017 regular season: 26-14 (10-8) before the Kentucky series, 12-3 (11-1) after.

2018 regular season: Never really caught a hot streak. We'd have a good 10-game stretch followed by a bad one.

It's hard to continually rely on playing .800+ ball the final month of the regular season. When it doesn't come, you have 2011 or 2018.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
14608 posts
Posted on 3/29/19 at 12:09 pm to
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Haven’t seen the better replacement yet..


Not to bash players, but Feduccia was the worst catcher I’ve ever seen at LSU. He missed belt high fastballs that he just didn’t reach for
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87322 posts
Posted on 3/29/19 at 12:32 pm to
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I'm not trying to claim they will or will not turn things around this season, but all this panic sounds eerily similar to 2017.

That year we were 13-5 pre-conference losing to UNO twice and McNeese once.

Then we soon went to lose 2 of 3 to Florida and A&M, also losing 2 mid-week games to Tulane in the process.

I know we didn't win the whole thing that year, but we sure did make it to the college world series.


This team started off 7-0 against mediocre competition.

They’re 10-9 since...including 3-0 against a Kentucky team that has yet to win a conference game.

I’m not saying they can’t or won’t turn it around. But right now, all indications are that this team is stuck in reverse. Given the preseason rankings/expectations, that is unacceptable.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
48693 posts
Posted on 3/29/19 at 12:33 pm to
Maybe he should put in all back ups for the mid week game and see if someone needs to be given more playing time.

Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10694 posts
Posted on 3/29/19 at 12:38 pm to
The strength of the SEC schedule would have to compared in the first half vs second half of all these seasons for any real purpose. If LSU starts with a very inexperienced roster that improves weekly/monthly then it would be very understandable of late season surges. With the 4 guys that came back, + Smith, Cabrera, etc, I don't see this as being a really inexperienced team other than some of the pitching staff (many are now in injury recovery mode)and new catchers. Catcher is a real problem from every aspect, not sure whomever is at 1B is going to be productive at the plate, and so far 2 of the weakest hitters from 2018 are either starting or playing a ton of innings, and the other incumbents aren't getting it done at the plate with any consistency. Hess is very unpredictable which on truly deep teams would render him a #3, or mid-week starter or reliever to not risk burning up the bull pen on Friday nights. At some point this team has to play better in all phases of the game or else. Baseball is a tough sport, it requires a lot of mental concentration at key moments to be successful. There appears to be a lot of disconnect at the moment, put the sports psychologist on speed dial.
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