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re: LSU baseball getting some early preseason love! Preseason #1

Posted on 7/28/24 at 2:46 pm to
Posted by TigerBait2008
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 2:46 pm to
I swear you are the dumbest Mfer to ever grace this board.
Posted by Paul Allen
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by Adam4848
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 2:54 pm to
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Now we are adding several new faces and expecting it to gel and for several to hit at the SEC level.


Every single SEC is doing this
Posted by burreauxxx
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 2:58 pm to
Perhaps some more than others. We turned over double digit “misses” and added a ton to replace those bad evals. Can’t be great for continuity at a minimum
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 3:17 pm to
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We turned over double digit “misses”


most classes have double digit misses.

Some of the best classes have double digit misses.

getting 3 good players and a couple contributors is a huge class.

what’s nice is we can now get guys like Dickinson. Go compare his sophomore year to first rounder Jacob Wilson’s or First rounder Walker Janek’s

2022 had first rounders from
Cal Poly, UConn, Coastal Carolina, James Madison, Chipolla College, Gonzaga and Campbell.



This post was edited on 7/28/24 at 3:40 pm
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 3:29 pm to
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most classes have double digit misses.


Yeah, he clearly wasn’t around for the Mainieri years if he’s complaining about roster turnover.

At least our “bad evals” are going to other power 5 schools now. Under Mainieri they usually went juco to D2 or out of baseball altogether.
Posted by burreauxxx
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 3:33 pm to
Missing my point re: continuity

Even in the portal era, I think you’ll see the top teams have a nucleus of returning production

Good chance most of the lineup is new and we return virtually all new or unproven pitching

That’s a lot of new/uncertainty for a projected No. 1
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 3:44 pm to
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Missing my point re: continuity


Jones, Milam, Braswell, Brown and Larson is a decent amount of continuity.

I don’t think you’re going to see too many teams with 5th year guys now that most of the 2020 kids have aged out.

I mean going into last year idk if you’d say A&M had a ton of proven guys. Montgomery and Lavoilette and that’s it.


Posted by burreauxxx
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 3:46 pm to
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Jones, Milam, Braswell, Brown and Larson is a decent amount of continuity.


All unproven except Jones. Braswell has logged miles but he’s an average player
Posted by burreauxxx
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 3:48 pm to
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I mean going into last year idk if you’d say A&M had a ton of proven guys. Montgomery and Lavoilette and that’s it.


Bingo.

That’s why LSU falls into that bucket of about 6-8 other SEC programs that have returning talent but a ton of unknowns. That’s my point — the No. 1 ranking is silly
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 3:52 pm to
If everyone in the WAC could hit 18 HR they would.

but they don’t.

And you see guys from the WAC going high in the draft alll the time.
Hitting 18 HRs is the best indication of the ability to hit 18
HRs. UVU also had a bigger outfield than Tennessee but an insane margin. H

LCF is .427

This post was edited on 7/28/24 at 3:56 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:11 pm to
I do and don’t agree with you.

It’s unproven how good Milan can be, but it is proven that he is good.

the trajectory his freshmen year was up and up and up. And say what you will about the competition he hit against A&m and Tennessee. once he got a couple weekends in him he mashed.
Posted by burreauxxx
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:51 pm to
I think Milam will be a good player. I was in the postseason threads just last month saying he needed to be moved up into the heart of the order after he got hot.

I also think his brand is greater than his body of work due to the heroics/dramatics, yellow hair etc the last couple weeks of the season. Fans are all-in on him now. To me, that’s a greater example of recency bias.

I hope he turned into a star player and grabs the 2 hole and runs with it. Live up to the hype and give me .325 with 15+ bombs. Would be great. I’m just not convinced yet
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:54 pm to
I mean,Morgan, Crews and White were the only “proven” players going into 2023 and Morgan was a contact hitter and defensive 1st basemen (which is what he still is)

Dugas didnt start in 2022
Beloso had barely played since 2019
Joubert was streaky and a .247 hitter
Travinski barely played
Thompson was ok.
Pearson was ok
Milazzo couldn’t hit and was a backup defensive catcher.
Those were serious guys in that team the next year.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 5:08 pm to
Idk I would agree if those 8 HR were scattered over the season.

But watching him play and there was a clearl learning curve that as he found his footing he got better and better.

.326 hitter as a freshmen

8 HR and 0 were before April 19. There is a clear road to being a .325 10-16 HR player while played really good defensive 2nd Base. Hitting 2 HR in the pre conference schedule gets him to double digits.
Posted by burreauxxx
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 5:17 pm to
I didn’t see it that way with Gavin. I was not a big fan when he was a young player. But he developed into a solid player his junior season and was that upperclassman leader you need that I felt was sitting on a very good season. Combine that with 3 known stars and that’s the nucleus that’s been a hallmark for many championship teams
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 5:21 pm to
He hit 19 HRs and then got hurt. Did Lasik. I was pretty confident pairing him with those other 3 made for a heart of the order very few could match
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 5:22 pm to
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I don’t know that I would call it recency bias as much as evaluating Jays ability to evaluate and develop.



You are seriously annoying and ignorant. There are numerous examples of players progressing under Jay. He continues to put guys into the league too.

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I think adding Tanks and Skenes to what he inherited from Maineri was a helluva nucleus for a championship team.


It goes beyond that. You don't win a championship without some other additions such as Riley Cooper and even Thatcher Hurd.

Keep on dismissing what he did though. He was left with no SEC caliber starters the season before and still won 17 SEC games. Then he went out and did what he needed to do to win a Championship. He also got a ton out of those Juniors, but continue to dismiss what he did and give him no credit. You're a prick for that. At least Paul Mainieri had far more class than you ever will.

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He has turned over a lot. Now we are adding several new faces and expecting it to gel and for several to hit at the SEC level. I just think it’s pretty obvious that there is a tremendous amount of uncertainty that gets in the way of feeling confident about this team. I think that’s a very fair assessment and not an anti-LSU viewpoint.


That is every single season. Unlike last season, LSU is returning like 6 positional starters and adding way more experience to this team. There actually aren't that many starting spots open. There are way more options for those roles too. So if one guy doesn't translate then there are way more guys to turn to. Also way more guys with actual college experience.

And again, as bad as LSU started last season, they were 2 outs away from hosting a very favorable Super Regional. Think about that. With that inexperienced lineup and nothing went their way they were still a fringe Omaha team. I doubt very seriously LSU starts out like that again. I would offer some sort of ban bet, but you are a troll and irrelevant. You'd just make some other bs account.

Why are you the way you are? It's insane. Why do you have it out for Jay Johnson? What did Jay Johnson do to you? You are worse than an old poster named TheeRealCarolina trolling LSU fans over Joe Burrow in the NFL. You act exactly like he did. And Burrow went on to prove him wrong to a point where he eventually disappeared. You may even be worse than Glenn Guilbeau. It's pathetic.
This post was edited on 7/28/24 at 5:26 pm
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 5:23 pm to
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There is a clear road to being a .325 10-16 HR player while played really good defensive 2nd Base.


I agree with all of this. Now he has to go do it and not Beloso his sophomore season
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5540 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 5:31 pm to
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There are numerous examples of players progressing under Jay.


I need to see more of this at LSU before I believe it

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That is every single season


Context was No 1 team in the nation moron

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they were 2 outs away from hosting a very favorable Super Regional


But they didn’t. Coulda woulda shoulda

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Why do you have it out for Jay Johnson?


I’m just calling balls and strikes. It’s not personal. When he starts to recruit and develop young stars at LSU like some of his SEC piers have the last few years then I’ll acknowledge it.

PS - I’m a huge Joey B fan if you can’t tell by my handle
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