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re: LSU 2018 offense was one of the most productive in the last 10 years

Posted on 2/10/19 at 10:46 am to
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 10:46 am to
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You are highly mistaken if you think having one of the best offenses in college football will disappoint me. I will be elated!




sure you will, You will be on suicide watch
Posted by TarponKing
Grand Cayman
Member since Feb 2019
298 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 10:47 am to
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the offense exploded once Ensminger took over in 2016 to levels never seen before in LSU history. 

This is all starting to make sense now. So how are you related to Ensminger?
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 10:54 am to
“ you will be on suicide watch”

Thinking that people who are frustrated with a certain area of the LSU football team would be more frustrated if that area immensely improved, is pretty silly but each do our own.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 11:07 am to
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Thinking that people who are frustrated with a certain area of the LSU football team would be more frustrated if that area immensely improved, is pretty silly but each do our own.


I think that the thought of Orgeron being successful here at LSU bothers you that much, yes. Funny thing is that I also really liked coach Miles. I was a fan of Miles and ALSO am a fan of Orgeron and wanted both to be successful at LSU. Because then that means that LSU is successful. There is no rule that says that if you liked and pulled for Miles you cant also like and pull for Orgeron. Just seems like common sense to me but to each their own. You keep on a rocking and I won't come a knocken.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4338 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 11:10 am to
Offensive production was higher among the elite teams in the 70’s. Now with 85 scholarships teams have had to move to a passing game. The fact that the big twelve and Mountain west have zero defense and run up scores is not relevant. The SEC is not much different than 30 years ago when Spurrier introduced the fun and gun.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13967 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 11:12 am to
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We fired a a coach almost 3 yrs ago for , at least partly, not having a O productive as we wanted. Almost 3 yrs later, our O is less productive. We can list all of the excuses we want, but that’s simply not a good thing and a failure on the part of those responsible for the LSU football team.


It’s not intellectually honest to compare PPG and YPG in 2015 and 2018, the roster in ‘15 was tremendously better. Of course that team had better numbers, but it underachieved with what it had. 2018 overachieved with what it had.
Posted by Earlpearl
Member since Feb 2019
518 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 11:16 am to
It's not silly. It's human nature. People don't want to be wrong. Why do you think there are so many threads started downplaying the #6 finish and recruiting class?

I personally thought E did a good job with the cards he was dealt this year. The fact they scored more points in conference play than every other team in the division but BAMA, says a lot given our OL, new coaches, new rbs, and new wrs. Not to mention Ingram and the other injuries on an already questionable OL.

I don't know whether you are negative or not, don't remember reading your name much. I personally am very excited about the 2019 offense.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 11:17 am to
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Ok. So let's just get it out in the open now then. What liability will be blamed if the offense struggles again this year? Freshmen RBs? 1st year passing coordinator? Please be as creative as you like



How is it any different than blaming it on the coaches?

He's just going into more detail about what's going wrong while the intellectually lazy scream fire the coaches.
Posted by Earlpearl
Member since Feb 2019
518 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 11:17 am to
Not only was that 2015 team much more talented. They also played worse defenses.
Posted by Earlpearl
Member since Feb 2019
518 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 11:19 am to
Agenda driven guy. Certainly no objectivity. He should change his name to tamponking.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24328 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 11:23 am to
Games that mattered
0-29 BAMA
19- 27
24-31 TAMU
Putrid when you look at the number of 3 and outs this past season.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24328 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 11:25 am to
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Not only was that 2015 team much more talented. They also played worse defenses.

YET some miracle they managed to have the same record against the same strength of schedule as last season. The final ranking for the 2015 season was 5th in the country.
Posted by ShaneTheMaster
Tampa, FL
Member since Nov 2009
2929 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 11:26 am to
Does this average include the ridiculous last game of the season?
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2144 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 11:31 am to
I was disappointed with the offense. Much improvement is needed. The numbers and rankings you post are a bit skewed by the 7OTs against Aggies. However, they do show that with expected improvement LSU should have a much better offense this year. If not, the seats of O and E will warm, considerably.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 11:43 am to
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The final ranking for the 2015 season was 5th in the country.


Yo, crackhead, what poll you reading? AP and coaches poll say 17 and 16 respectfully.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
21785 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 11:44 am to
He’s talking about strength of schedule ranking, Will
This post was edited on 2/10/19 at 11:54 am
Posted by TrevRollings29
Orlando
Member since Dec 2018
969 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 11:47 am to
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Hey 'Trollings29', whats up? you on the clock already today? got to keep those clicks coming for chicken. I'll quit bothering you, I know you are on the clock.


At first I was in awe that someone would actually think that people get payed to post critical counter points to the O mania on this board.

Then I realized, it takes the same delusion that is required to think that LSU's offense lit it up this year to think that someone like myself would be payed to post here.

LSU has not genuinely committed to a new direction on offense and it shows. Hopefully Brady can bring some innovation to the offense, but that would still prove my point which is that Ensminger alone is not the answer.


quote:

The numbers and rankings you post are a bit skewed by the 7OTs against Aggies.


Even then, 37th or 38th is still not where we need to be. Everyone is talking about how Les Miles got fired because he wouldn't innovate our offense and then continue to defend a 37th scoring offense ranking. That's not going to win championships in 2019, period.
This post was edited on 2/10/19 at 11:50 am
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 11:51 am to
“ I think that the thought of Oregeron being successful here at LSU bothers you “

I was pulling for LSU and its coaches to be successful in those terrible 90s. I think I’m perfectly capable of pulling for Coach O as well. Just because I’m frustrated with the lack of offensive improvement, it doesn’t follow that I want the team to fail. That’s just silly. That would be cutting off my nose to spite my face. I’m a tad more emotionally stable than that.

Miles is gone awhile. I find it kinda off that some seem so intent on finding some way of comparing coach O favorably to a guy we had to fire. I would think comparing Coach O with the 1st yr HCs at A&M and Flor It would be more appropriate, but each to our own.
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Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24328 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 11:58 am to
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Yo, crackhead, what poll you reading? AP and coaches poll say 17 and 16 respectfully.
that was the soS CRACKHEAD. That was a reply to a person who said that LSU faced far worse defenses in 2015 as they did in 2018. I simply pointed out that the SoS was 5th in 2015. But way to not read it fully.
You think Miles would have been on the hot seat with a top 5 rankling in 2015? WTF!
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93674 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 11:58 am to
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I was disappointed with the offense. Much improvement is needed. The numbers and rankings you post are a bit skewed by the 7OTs against Aggies. However, they do show that with expected improvement LSU should have a much better offense this year. If not, the seats of O and E will warm, considerably.

We can always count on beaux to bring some rationale and clarity to a discussion. My man.
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