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Posted on 1/30/11 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 12:37 pm to
coaches shouldn't need 4 years to win. not in basketball



and i think he was being facetious about paying Brady double.


losing is one thing, but not even being competitive against average teams is another.


"doing it the right way" is becoming a played out excuse.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 12:38 pm to
Let me just say that as bare as the roster was when TJ took over, he still failed to recruit quality players.

That's a bad thing.

Also, I mentioned this in another thread on the SEC rant

Doesn't it bother you that all of his assistant are former players? You don't want everyone on staff from the same coaching tree. There's no diversity. Everyone has the same background in game planning and organizing practice.

It's like going to graduate school and undergrad at the same place.

Not sure how much of an affect it really has, but it's something I would be uncomfortable with if I was an LSU fan.
Posted by The Truth 34
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 12:42 pm to
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But, they probably don't know what we did the first 4 or 5 seasons under both Brady and Daddy Dale


that's what i'm sayin. it's ridiculous to want trent fired right now.

people need to look at brady's record his first few years and then talk on here.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 12:43 pm to
FWIW, it did take John Calipari 5 years at Memphis to reach the NCAA tournament.
Posted by S
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 12:46 pm to
want to see courtney get more time at this point.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 12:47 pm to
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FWIW, it did take John Calipari 5 years at Memphis to reach the NCAA tournament.



or 3 years
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 12:49 pm to
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people need to look at brady's record his first few years and then talk on here.




the team was on probation when Brady took over. Im sure you knew that.


he made the sweet 16 in his 3rd year.
This post was edited on 1/30/11 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 12:49 pm to
He made it in his 4th year, because after that year he went back to the NIT

I should have said 5 to get the program rollings
Posted by The Truth 34
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 12:50 pm to
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he made the sweet 16 in his 3rd year.



which was obviously a fluke.

1997–1998 LSU 9–18 2–14 6th (West)
1998–1999 LSU 12–15 4–12 6th (West)
1999–2000 LSU 28–6 12–4 1st (West) NCAA Sweet 16
2000–2001 LSU 13–16 2–14 6th (West)
2001–2002 LSU 19–15 6–10 T–4th (West) NIT 2nd Round
2002–2003 LSU 21–11 8–8 T–2nd (West) NCAA 1st Round
2003–2004 LSU 18–11 8–8 T–2nd (West) NIT 1st Round
2004–2005 LSU 20–10 12–4 T–1st (West) NCAA 1st Round
2005–2006 LSU 27–9 14–2 1st (West) NCAA Final Four
2006–2007 LSU 17–15 5–11 6th (West)
2007–2008 LSU 8–13 1–6 6th (West)
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

coaches shouldn't need 4 years to win. not in basketball

coaches have different ways of doing it....and we don't fully know the APR restrictions on LSU when TJ got here
quote:

losing is one thing, but not even being competitive against average teams is another.

no doubt, it is bothersome, and people should be worried, but wanting him fired at this time is a little harsh
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 12:56 pm to
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He made it in his 4th year, because after that year he went back to the NIT



he definitely made the NCAA tournament in his 3rd year.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 12:57 pm to
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which was obviously a fluke.




ahh, of course.


horrible first few years though
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 12:58 pm to
you're right.



Posted by The Truth 34
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 1:00 pm to
take away the '00 and '06 seasons, and you have a very mediocre record.

i could have coached that '06 team to the final four FWIW.

Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 1:05 pm to
Take away Trent's 1st year and you have an atrocious record. Seriously you can't just exclude years because it helps your argument.
This post was edited on 1/30/11 at 1:05 pm
Posted by The Truth 34
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 1:09 pm to
last year's team was Taz and a bunch of walk-ons.

were you expecting that team to win many games?
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 1:11 pm to
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were you expecting that team to win many games?



No I had no problem with getting killed last year.
Posted by West Central Tiger
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 1:24 pm to
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Trent Johnson is the Tyrone Willingham of College Basketball. Gee Whiz... and they both coached at Stanford before they took over a legitimate D1 program and sunk it like a battleship in WWII.


Does this nean the 49's goofed up?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 1:31 pm to
what have you seen in Trent Johnson that makes you so confident in him?

just curious
Posted by Ipreciateu2
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 1:34 pm to
All I know is for the past two years LSU basketball has been painful to watch. That said, I guess we need to blame the players; not the coach; for under performing??
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