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re: Love to hear from Kelly diehards
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:02 am to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:02 am to SidewalkTiger
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there's a lack of talent on the defensive side of the ball, mostly due to bad initial hires which led to recruiting failures.
And who is responsible for the getting the talent? The man has been here for three years.
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I believe that has now been rectified
With what you've seen in the last month, how has it been rectified? Be specific.
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I'm not going to sit here and melt
Not asking you to. Just asking you to answer the questions where you think everything has been "fixed."
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Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:05 am to MasterKnight
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To answer your question should fans be patient
It's year three and in the last month, the team has gotten worse. That's concerning.
To be clear, I'm not calling for Kelly to be fired but it is a concerning trend.
The last time we lost three in a row was in 2021 and the coach did get fired. I don't want that again.
There's something amiss and I don't know what it is but seeing the team going backwards, after 10 games, is concerning.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:06 am to la_birdman
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And who is responsible for the getting the talent? The man has been here for three years.
I've stated twice that Kelly failed with his initial hires, I'm not really sure what you're failing to understand.
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With what you've seen in the last month, how has it been rectified? Be specific.
Let me see if I can dumb it down:
1. Hire better staff
(We are here)
2. Better staff gets better players
3. Profit
This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 1:07 am
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:10 am to SidewalkTiger
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I've stated twice that Kelly failed with his initial hires,
I understand that. I'm asking about the current hires. Not sure what you're failing to understand. It was a pretty straightforward question.
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1. Hire better staff
(We are here)
For the third time, why do you feel it's better? Because it sure as hell doesn't look better.
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Better staff gets better players
Read above.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:12 am to la_birdman
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For the third time, why do you feel it's better? Because it sure as hell doesn't look better.
You don't think the defense looks better than it did last year?
Not to mention that the combo of Baker, Peoples, Davis, and Raymond is considered an elite staff in coaching circles.
The respective resumes speak for themselves.
This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 1:13 am
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:13 am to la_birdman
When he says the problem has been rectified he is only referring to the defensive coaching staff being better, which he is correct about. The rest (actually getting better players and having them perform) is still up in the air and he is just hoping for the best. I guess he is also ignoring the fact that BK might have messed up his hires on the offensive side of the ball now as well.
It’s just weird that we are all watching a bad product on the field and he expects fans to just not complain about it…
It’s just weird that we are all watching a bad product on the field and he expects fans to just not complain about it…
This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 1:15 am
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:14 am to SidewalkTiger
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You don't think the defense looks better than it did last year?
In the last three games? Are you seriously asking?
So the defense has improved from last year. I will agree HOWEVER they aren't awesome. Look at last week's game.
Look the game prior.
Look at today's game.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:16 am to LSBoosie
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When he says the problem has been rectified he is only referring to the defensive coaching staff being better, which he is correct about. The rest (actually getting better players and having them perform) is still up in the air and he is just hoping for the best.
Pretty much
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I guess he is also ignoring the fact that BK might have messed up his hires on the offensive side of the ball now as well.
It's possible but I'm not really qualified to make that judgement at this juncture, I do have faith that BK will fix the issue if someone like Sloan is actually the problem.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:18 am to la_birdman
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In the last three games? Are you seriously asking?
So the defense has improved from last year. I will agree HOWEVER they aren't awesome. Look at last week's game.
Look the game prior.
Look at today's game.
Well no, they were never going to be "awesome" after being hammered dog shite last year. There are still some very real holes and the staff can't just create players to fill those holes.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:19 am to LSBoosie
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It’s just weird that we are all watching a bad product on the field and he expects fans to just not complain about it…
Where did I say that?
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:19 am to LSBoosie
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When he says the problem has been rectified he is only referring to the defensive coaching staff being better, which he is correct about.
Compared to last year, I agree. They aren't where they should be but they are improved.
With that being said, they aren't awesome. The last two games show that. That's not a shot at any particular player, I don't believe in dumping on players.
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. I guess he is also ignoring the fact that BK might have messed up
He absolutely is. LSU loses every player on the OL with the exception of the center after this season.
He will not admit that Kelly makes errors. All he's blaming it on are Kelly's hires from three years ago.
This is not the LSU standard fans are used to seeing. This is not what $10/M a year gets you.
To continue to be okay with that and make excuses like everything is fine, is disingenuous.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:21 am to SidewalkTiger
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the staff can't just create players to fill those holes.
And who is responsible for getting players to fill the holes? I'm not expecting him to "create" a player but I am expecting him to make adjustments. He is paid a TON and every game looks like the last one.
Are the players behind the starters THAT bad? If so, who is that on?
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:22 am to SligoTiger
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That wasn’t a “shortcoming” at Notre Dame, that was a blessing
ND is a blue blood program with 10+ national championships and 3 coaches with higher winning percentages than BK.
I know your 20y/o tik tok brain is fried from all the family guy you watch, but understand that the sport is older than the past 30 seasons
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:24 am to SidewalkTiger
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It's possible but I'm not really qualified to make that judgement at this juncture
The fact that Brian Kelly basically said that he took responsibility away from Sloan should be a pretty good indication of that.
You said “I don't personally see the point of continuing to melt about it.” when talking about his bad hires on the defensive side of the ball, while acknowledging that he might still be making bad hires. Thats why people are still complaining. He is still making bad decisions and putting a shitty product on the field.
This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 1:25 am
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:26 am to la_birdman
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This is not the LSU standard fans are used to seeing.
LSU is historically something like a .645 program, Kelly is .702.
Some fans just have an inflated sense of what the LSU "standard" actually is.
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He will not admit that Kelly makes errors.
False. Kelly makes errors just like anyone.
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This is not what $10/M a year gets you.
Sure it is. Mike Norvell and Lincoln Riley are both paid more than Kelly, Mark Stoops is paid just a bit less. Kelly has a better win percentage at LSU than the majority of the top 10 top paid coaches' list at their current job.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:27 am to Ralphiemay
I’m here. Did Kelly drop two ints in the numbers and 2-3 hand grabs??
Did Kelly have NINE drops on offense??
Did Kelly miss a gimme field goal??
All his fault huh?? Ignorant
Did Kelly have NINE drops on offense??
Did Kelly miss a gimme field goal??
All his fault huh?? Ignorant
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:29 am to la_birdman
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And who is responsible for getting players to fill the holes? I'm not expecting him to "create" a player but I am expecting him to make adjustments. He is paid a TON and every game looks like the last one.
Are the players behind the starters THAT bad? If so, who is that on?
Kelly, no doubt. I mean I've stated that at least 3 times at this point. Are you drunk?
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:30 am to SidewalkTiger
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This is not what $10/M a year gets you.
Sure it is.
So you're okay with the product you've been seeing this season.
Most are not.
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Kelly has a better win percentage at LSU than the majority of the top 10 top paid coaches' list at their current job.
How is his win percentage vs top 10 teams? Even top 20 teams.
How in the world you can still defend the man (not saying fire him) but how you can defend him after what he has put out on the field for the last month is beyond me.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:31 am to FireawayLSU
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I’m here. Did Kelly drop two ints in the numbers and 2-3 hand grabs?? Did Kelly have NINE drops on offense?? Did Kelly miss a gimme field goal??
Why doesn’t he go get players that don’t frick up as much? Isn’t that his job?
You are basically saying LSU is trotting out a bunch of shitty players and it’s not Kelly’s fault.
This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 1:33 am
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:32 am to SidewalkTiger
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I mean I've stated that at least 3 times at this point
You keep saying he made errors with his initial hires. Which happened three years ago.
I'm talking about the current hires.
It's pretty straightforward.
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