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look how insanely well balanced the recruiting has been on Defense
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:31 pm
Devin and Greedy are both pre-season First Team All Americans, which is awesome, but theres also 15 other dudes who were top 100 overall prospects in the 24/7 composite, and theyre spaced out about as well as they could be
CB - Kristian Fulton (JR) - number 22
CB Kary Vincent (SO) - number 95
CB - Greedy Williams (SO) - First-Team All-American
CB - Kelvin Joseph (FR) - number 42
S - Ed Paris (SR) - number 41
S - Grant Delpit (SO) - number 66
S - Jacoby Stevens (SO) - number 18
S - Eric Monroe (SO) - number 55
S - Todd Harris (SO) - number 86
LB - Michael Divinity (JR) - number 64
LB - Devin White (JR) - First-Team All-American
LB - K'Lavon Chaisson (SO) - number 37
LB - Jacob Phillips (SO) - number 61
DL - Rashard Lawrence (JR) - number 23
DL - Breiden Fehoko (JR) - number 51
DL - Ed Alexander (JR) - number 68
DL - Tyler Shelvin (RS FR) - number 54
CB - Kristian Fulton (JR) - number 22
CB Kary Vincent (SO) - number 95
CB - Greedy Williams (SO) - First-Team All-American
CB - Kelvin Joseph (FR) - number 42
S - Ed Paris (SR) - number 41
S - Grant Delpit (SO) - number 66
S - Jacoby Stevens (SO) - number 18
S - Eric Monroe (SO) - number 55
S - Todd Harris (SO) - number 86
LB - Michael Divinity (JR) - number 64
LB - Devin White (JR) - First-Team All-American
LB - K'Lavon Chaisson (SO) - number 37
LB - Jacob Phillips (SO) - number 61
DL - Rashard Lawrence (JR) - number 23
DL - Breiden Fehoko (JR) - number 51
DL - Ed Alexander (JR) - number 68
DL - Tyler Shelvin (RS FR) - number 54
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 9:35 pm
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:32 pm to MastrShake
Well we do have 3 NTs on that list.
But otherwise we’ve just recruiter very well.
But otherwise we’ve just recruiter very well.
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:36 pm to MastrShake
Ed Paris was as close to being a 5 star as you can be,
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:39 pm to SammyTiger
quote:dont drag me back down to earth yet, dude. just give me these last few days of unrepentant optimism.
Well we do have 3 NTs on that list.
and I think I posted this here, cant remember, but heres the composite rankings for the 1s
DE - Rashard Lawrence (JR) - number 23
NT - Breiden Fehoko (JR transfer) - number 51
DE - Glen Logan (SO) - number 156
BENCH LB - K'Lavon Chaisson (SO) - number 37
MLB - Jacob Phillips (SO) - number 61
ROVER - Devin White (JR) - number 135
FIELD LB - Michael Divinity (JR) - number 64
CB - Greedy Williams (SO) - number 219
SS - John Battle (SR) - number 406
FS - Grant Delpit (SO) - number 66
CB - Kelvin Joseph (FR) - number 42
or CB - Kristian Fulton (JR) - number 22
12 names there, and only 4 of the 12 were outside the top 100.
2 of the 4 lowest are Greedy and Devin, the AA's
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:49 pm to MastrShake
Not only is the recruiting on defense stellar but the coaching schemes between O and Aranda are definitely going to be worth getting your hopes up for.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 10:18 pm to fromthesouth21
What was your favorite part of the changes O made to the D after Miles got fired?
Mine was that he kept not fricking with Aranda’s Defense.
Mine was that he kept not fricking with Aranda’s Defense.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 10:23 pm to SammyTiger
If you just go by the "official depth chart" our backups constitute our two highest rated defensive players in the two deep, and four of the top 10.
We have 10 starters rated above 0.900 and 7 backups rated similarly.
And I'm not even counting Shelvin.
You put all of this talent into the hands of Dave Aranda and I don't know how folks think they can score against us with any consistency.
We have 10 starters rated above 0.900 and 7 backups rated similarly.
And I'm not even counting Shelvin.
You put all of this talent into the hands of Dave Aranda and I don't know how folks think they can score against us with any consistency.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 10:26 pm to ROPO
Guys like Ray Thornton and Andre Anthony, who we all view as "solid contributors" but not starters were rated as > 0.9200 out of high school. Greedy was 0.9164.
Just imagine if Dave is able to get out of them close to what he gets out of Greedy.
Just imagine if Dave is able to get out of them close to what he gets out of Greedy.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 10:37 pm to ROPO
quote:I might go back over this are see what the scores are, that really is about the only thing that matters. people say numbers dont lie but I love stats and I assure you numbers lie their arse off constantly. stars can tell you next to nothing (a 4 star could mean anything from number 34 to number 339), and number 25 overall one year might be a 20 one year and a 30 the next.
Guys like Ray Thornton and Andre Anthony, who we all view as "solid contributors" but not starters were rated as > 0.9200 out of high school. Greedy was 0.9164.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 10:38 pm to ROPO
You could tell early on though that greedy just outplayed his stars tho. Truly a gem and I don’t think he can be the standard bearer for low 4-stars lol
Posted on 8/29/18 at 10:43 pm to ROPO
Let's give Corey Raymond some love too
Posted on 8/30/18 at 4:56 am to SammyTiger
sorry but O never messed with Aranda's defense.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 5:16 am to SammyTiger
quote:
Well we do have 3 NTs on that list.
Well DL needs to rotate more than any other position.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 5:45 am to SammyTiger
quote:
Mine was that he kept not fricking with Aranda’s Defense.
So, your favorite change is that he did not make a change?!?
Posted on 8/30/18 at 5:53 am to SammyTiger
How do you know what O does with the defense?
Posted on 8/30/18 at 5:54 am to kbroom
He's a big-time o hater. But he has no idea what kind of input O has on defense
Posted on 8/30/18 at 9:26 am to MastrShake
I wish TD recognized "tab" so this would look better. But here are our "ratings" per 247 for each player in the 2 deep (based on the official depth chart).
Defense
Position Starter Rating Backup Rating
OLB Michael Divinity 0.9675 Ray Thornton 0.9206
DE Glen Logan 0.9318 Justin Thomas 0.8681
NT Breiden Fehoko 0.9753 Ed Alexander 0.9665
DE Rashard Lawrence 0.9847 Neil Farrell 0.8847
OLB K’Lavon Chaisson 0.9821 Andre Anthony 0.9216
ILB Jacob Phillips 0.9719 Damone Clark 0.8923
ILB Devin White 0.9393 Patrick Queen 0.8955
CB Kelvin Joseph 0.9784 Kristian Fulton 0.9861
FS John Battle 0.8800 Todd Harris 0.9589
SS Grant Delpit 0.9679 Jacoby Stevens 0.9901
CB Greedy Williams 0.9164 Kary Vincent 0.9567
Defense
Position Starter Rating Backup Rating
OLB Michael Divinity 0.9675 Ray Thornton 0.9206
DE Glen Logan 0.9318 Justin Thomas 0.8681
NT Breiden Fehoko 0.9753 Ed Alexander 0.9665
DE Rashard Lawrence 0.9847 Neil Farrell 0.8847
OLB K’Lavon Chaisson 0.9821 Andre Anthony 0.9216
ILB Jacob Phillips 0.9719 Damone Clark 0.8923
ILB Devin White 0.9393 Patrick Queen 0.8955
CB Kelvin Joseph 0.9784 Kristian Fulton 0.9861
FS John Battle 0.8800 Todd Harris 0.9589
SS Grant Delpit 0.9679 Jacoby Stevens 0.9901
CB Greedy Williams 0.9164 Kary Vincent 0.9567
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 9:28 am
Posted on 8/30/18 at 9:32 am to Tigerinevergreen
deductive reasoning
1. No change between the D before and after Les’s firing.
2. The defense did change between Steele and Aranda despite O being on both staff’s.
3. We just paid 2.5 million to save Aranda.
All this combined makes me deduce that at most Ed O has as much say in the defense as he did under Miles.
This absolutely isn’t “Aranda and Os scheme”
1. No change between the D before and after Les’s firing.
2. The defense did change between Steele and Aranda despite O being on both staff’s.
3. We just paid 2.5 million to save Aranda.
All this combined makes me deduce that at most Ed O has as much say in the defense as he did under Miles.
This absolutely isn’t “Aranda and Os scheme”
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 9:34 am
Posted on 8/30/18 at 9:33 am to kbroom
Definitely.
I love that O doesn’t get involved with out Defebse past our DL.
I dont Think a human alive including O would pick O to be their DC over Aranda. Or want O making any major decisions on Defense over Aranda.
I love that O doesn’t get involved with out Defebse past our DL.
I dont Think a human alive including O would pick O to be their DC over Aranda. Or want O making any major decisions on Defense over Aranda.
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