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re: Let's talk Dave Aranda for a minute.

Posted on 10/20/16 at 6:23 am to
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 6:23 am to
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Top 10 defenses year in and year out, able to get it done at the SEC level, players and recruits rave about him, he's an x's and o's type coach, operates under sound football principles rather than emotion, confidence in knowing our defense will be locked up. Remind you of anyone?

Yep. Mike Archer.
Posted by Forty Arpent
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2014
635 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 6:35 am to
Actually McClendon is the winningest head coach at LSU. Miles did win a lot of games but is second to CM in number of wins.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 6:57 am to
Arranda looks great right now.
I would withhold judgement on him until we play some teams with good offenses like Ole Miss, Bama and aTm.

He seems pretty cerebral and quiet. He has no head coaching experience. We don't know if he can recruit or if he can be a CEO of a program. For every Herman, there is a Kirby Smart or Will Muschamp. Herman went to Houston not an SEC program. He has proved it at Houston. Fuentes went from TCU OC to Memphis not directly to VaTech.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10234 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:27 am to
He should be hired IF the results on the field warrant it period. The people that don't want him hired because of his time at Ole Miss are just as shortsighted. Bill Belichech sucked at Cleveland good thing Craft wasn't thinking with his emotions and looked at the whole picture. If O is hired it's because he won out or Beat the gumps and has the team going in the right direction. Being from La. is a bonus for recruiting an already loaded state.
Posted by Pencil Stick
Member since Oct 2016
79 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 8:06 am to
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A lot of fans still support Miles because he backed into a championship in 2007.


Stop with this crap. If Miles backed into it in 2007, then he was backed out of it in 2011. But he didn't. The best team doesn't always win the championship, but two years in which it did were 2007 and 2011. There was no doubt which team was the best after the bowl season was over.
Posted by doya2
Charenton
Member since Jan 2005
7936 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 8:25 am to
Our defense will win or lose the game Saturday. We will score a decent amount of points.
Posted by TIGRESSFAN
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
110 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 8:39 am to
I'm more worried about Herman getting the Texas job and hiring Aranda as his DC. They were college roommates.
Posted by Woodman
Seattle WA
Member since Aug 2009
1954 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 9:11 am to
See Kirby smart.

Next question.

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Was Kirby Smart perceived as so successful because he was benefitting from Nick Saban?

Aranda is his own man; he is not in the shadow of a an icon for his one craft. Aranda creates and adjusts on his own. He demonstrates having a cerebral aptitude for the X and O's where we will never be able to appreciate whether or not Smart possessed the same at Alabama. Had Saban retired and five years later Smart was continuing to make the defense even better, then we could presume Smart possessed the X and O's skillset. So dumping Smart into the same discussion with Aranda is truly missing the point here.

From where does Aranda glean brilliance on the offensive side to be a successful CEO of a football team and scrutinize his staff are bringing their highest level of excellence to the table? What about his skills in the "recruiting living room"? We hear he is a professor type quiet talking man. How do those skills translate into leadership to motivate masses? These are unknown commodities still to be fleshed-out [or revealed to the public - more likely] on Aranda.
Posted by doya2
Charenton
Member since Jan 2005
7936 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 9:26 am to
Defenses toughest test to date will be Saturday
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18194 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:15 am to
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Coaches in the vein of Belicheck, Saban, Spurrier, and Carroll have learned a great deal through failure at some point. Saban at Alabama is light years beyond Saban at LSU. Some of the best coaching Spurrier has ever done was making South Carolina semi-relevant for a few years.


the failures of each of the coaches you mentioned were in the NFL. Completely different than college ball.

Saban, Spurrier, and Carroll each excelled at the college level nearly every single year (with the exception of Spurrier's last year at So. Carolina), so they don't have any college "failure" to learn from.

And Saban's first HC job was at Toledo.
Spurrier's first HC job was at Duke.
Carroll's the exception - his first college HC job was USC, but he had been an NFL head coach for 4 years prior to that.
Belichick never coached in college.

You see where this is going. Start as smaller schools and prove you're a good HC. Then move up to bigger schools.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10455 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 4:55 pm to
Yes, I know. Was just being sarcastic. All the best to Les at Purdue.
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