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Let's revisit when we were looking for a DC
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:24 pm
I said I wouldn't put Pelini on our list. Others said these remarks and got tons of upvotes
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Lsu101205:
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Shiftyplus1:
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Bo Pelini gave LSU 3 years of the greatest defenses this team has ever had. I think the fans upset with Pelini being considered arent old enough to remember, but losing him hurt. No one wanted him to leave. And he did well at Nebraska, who was much worse before he got there, and went straight back to sucking when he left. Pelini has decades of experience coaching on winning, successful teams in the pros and college, plus hes familiar with LSU and recruiting this area. I think the hire would be fantastic
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Bo Pelini had us as a top 3 overall defense 3 years in a row at LSU.
You guys are crazy if you would not want him.
He won a minimum of 9 games every year as a HC.
Ill repeat.
You guys are crazy if you would not want him
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:28 pm to CatsGoneWild
Problem is those people were remembering the Bo Pelini from 12-13 years ago. Not the guy that no current team wanted.
I’ve said before and I’ll repeat it now. A lot of LSU fans just remember that Bo was DC on a national champion LSU team and that was all they needed.
They didn’t even consider how much the game has changed since then.
This was a questionable hire at the time that now looks like it could cost O everything if he doesn’t correct it and make a great hire next time.
I’ve said before and I’ll repeat it now. A lot of LSU fans just remember that Bo was DC on a national champion LSU team and that was all they needed.
They didn’t even consider how much the game has changed since then.
This was a questionable hire at the time that now looks like it could cost O everything if he doesn’t correct it and make a great hire next time.
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:47 pm to CatsGoneWild
What most of the fanbase refused to acknowledge and attacked anyone for bringing up is that overall Pelinis defenses are not very good. They also refused to acknowledge the trend of Pelinis defenses having a considerable drop as the modern offenses progressed over the last decade. Yes he’s had 3 really good ones, 2 with players he inherited from Saban at LSU and 2 at Nebraska but let’s look at his numbers as DC or HC running his D.
05 LSU- 14.2ppg
06 LSU- 12.6ppg
07 LSU- 19.9ppg
08 Nebraska- 28.5ppg
09 Nebraska- 10.4ppg
2010 Nebraska- 17.4ppg
2011 Nebraska- 23.4ppg
2012 Nebraska- 27.6ppg
2013 Nebraska- 24.8ppg
2014 Nebraska- 26.4ppg
And this season he’s already surpassed Curly Hallman’s 1990 LSU Mark for most points allowed through 3 games. So out of 10 years he’s had 3 defenses under 15ppg, 4 under 17ppg, 5 between 23 and 29ppg. Anyone who wasn’t delusional and looked at his actual record knows that Pelinis history isn’t elite or anywhere near the level fans tried to sell him on. He’s really a below average DC and over the last decade has been awful.
05 LSU- 14.2ppg
06 LSU- 12.6ppg
07 LSU- 19.9ppg
08 Nebraska- 28.5ppg
09 Nebraska- 10.4ppg
2010 Nebraska- 17.4ppg
2011 Nebraska- 23.4ppg
2012 Nebraska- 27.6ppg
2013 Nebraska- 24.8ppg
2014 Nebraska- 26.4ppg
And this season he’s already surpassed Curly Hallman’s 1990 LSU Mark for most points allowed through 3 games. So out of 10 years he’s had 3 defenses under 15ppg, 4 under 17ppg, 5 between 23 and 29ppg. Anyone who wasn’t delusional and looked at his actual record knows that Pelinis history isn’t elite or anywhere near the level fans tried to sell him on. He’s really a below average DC and over the last decade has been awful.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:52 pm to Madking
Aranda at LSU (even though most are kissing his arse today)
2016: 15.8 PPG
2017: 18.9 PPG
2018: 21.8 PPG
2019: 21.9 PPG
Better than Bo but he wasnt necessarily "elite" either at LSU.
2016: 15.8 PPG
2017: 18.9 PPG
2018: 21.8 PPG
2019: 21.9 PPG
Better than Bo but he wasnt necessarily "elite" either at LSU.
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:55 pm to CatsGoneWild
I'm on record as stating that Bo had worn out his welcome at the end of his original tenure at LSU and that fans would be disappointed.
Of course, he's done far worse than I would have imagined.
Of course, he's done far worse than I would have imagined.
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:56 pm to SidewalkTiger
Last season should be looked at with some context and 2018s ATM game spiked the numbers a lot. Last season we had 7 players either injured or out for 3/4 or of the season including our 4 best returning players, one being an All-American. Once the D was healthy we had an unprecedented run vs elite competition down the stretch. Aranda’s D was easily the best in the country through the final 5 games.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 10/11/20 at 5:02 pm to memphis tiger
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Problem is those people were remembering the Bo Pelini from 12-13 years ago. Not the guy that no current team wanted.
I’ve said before and I’ll repeat it now. A lot of LSU fans just remember that Bo was DC on a national champion LSU team and that was all they needed.
They didn’t even consider how much the game has changed since then.
ABSOLUTELY ! His numbers were OK against rushing teams but passing teams like FL were eating him alive. Once the SEC adjusted to his first year -- year and a half, he had no come back. Now passing QBs and teams are the norm.
Posted on 10/11/20 at 5:03 pm to Madking
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Once the D was healthy we had an unprecedented run vs elite competition down the stretch. Aranda’s D was easily the best in the country through the final 5 games.
It looked good on paper but we played Georgia with no Swift or Pickens in the first half and very thin at receiver.
Look at Oklahoma's scoring down the stretch, 28 was about average for them. They were also forced to be one dimensional after we scored so much in the first half against their depleted defense.
Baylor: 34
TCU: 28
Oklahoma State: 34
Baylor: 30
LSU: 28
Clemson never scored more than 29 against a Top 50 scoring defense in 2019.
A&M: 24
UNC: 21
OSU: 29
LSU: 25
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 10/11/20 at 5:05 pm to rbdallas
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teams like FL were eating him alive
Even though they gashed us for a ton of yards Florida only scored 24...
Posted on 10/11/20 at 5:05 pm to CatsGoneWild
I thought the Pelini hire was strange but I convinced myself that he’d be great. I drank the koolaid. I’m not ashamed to admit I was wrong. I hope Coach O isn’t either.
Posted on 10/11/20 at 5:05 pm to rbdallas
He also gave up career games to almost every solid player he faced. McFadden, Jones, Hillis, Tebow, Harvin, Woodson, Clausen just off the top of my head.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 10/11/20 at 5:08 pm to SidewalkTiger
Regardless no other D held elite teams in succession, or as many total, down the way we did down the stretch. If we’re gonna use one offs we can nit pick anything into looking worse than it actually was. You wanna use the 85 Miami game to discredit the Bears go for it but it doesn’t ring true.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 10/11/20 at 5:09 pm to Madking
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Regardless no other D held elite teams in succession or as many total down the way we did down the stretch. If we’re gonna use one offs we can nit pick anything into looking worse than it actually was.
I mean the facts are what they are.
We were good but not great in those games.
Posted on 10/11/20 at 5:10 pm to CatsGoneWild
I didn't like the hire but didn't imagine it would be this bad. Was much more concerned about this offense.
Posted on 10/11/20 at 5:12 pm to SidewalkTiger
Lmao ok buddy, it can be your little secret.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 10/11/20 at 5:15 pm to Madking
It isnt a secret to anyone who actually looks into things.
Posted on 10/11/20 at 5:18 pm to SidewalkTiger
You’re not looking into anything, you’re using two forms of false logic, nit picking stats then slapping an opinion on the end of it to create a narrative.
What you’re saying is all the elite offenses, players and teams were overrated. You can’t say those exact words because it’s insane but that’s what you’re suggesting.
What you’re saying is all the elite offenses, players and teams were overrated. You can’t say those exact words because it’s insane but that’s what you’re suggesting.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 10/11/20 at 5:25 pm to Madking
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You’re not looking into anything, you’re using two forms of false logic, nit picking stats then slapping an opinion on the end of it to create a narrative.
Not really, two facts.
Clemson never scored 30 on a "good defense."
Fact.
Oklahoma wasn't scoring more than 34 in any of their last 5 games.
Fact.
The defense definitely did improve and was good but it wasn't "elite."
Posted on 10/11/20 at 5:25 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Better than Bo but he wasnt necessarily "elite" either at LSU.
Remember when Aranda first arrived? His first comment was “ we have more kickers on scholarship than linebackers”. One thing I give Aranda credit for is he can make IN GAME adjustments. I haven’t seen Pelini come nowhere close to making those same type of adjustments.
Posted on 10/11/20 at 5:26 pm to TeamLSU
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One thing I give Aranda credit for is he can make IN GAME adjustments
No doubt.
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