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re: Let's not confuse greatest team with greatest season

Posted on 12/4/11 at 10:47 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 10:47 am to
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Which is the way you judge teams in a non-biased way.

not at all
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 10:48 am to
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If we had RGIII or someone like him, I believe we would be in that discussion

watching the stanford-nd game last week i was talking about what we'd do with luck at QB

RG3 would probably be better, with the option we like to sprinkle in
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 10:49 am to
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There has been no reason for our OC to start flinging the ball all over creation.

the problem is that against good-great Ds, we've shown that we simply can't throw it
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 10:49 am to
This is just like the idiot gumps using the "eye" test to determine #2. We outgained LSU by blah blah blah. How about using the scoreboard to determine who is the best team? This is one of the most complete teams to ever suit up. Offense, Defense, Special teams. SWAG
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 10:50 am to
2001 Miami would be the only team that i'd put above us.
Posted by Joe Banks
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 10:51 am to
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This team is 13th in the country in scoring i believe...scoring 40+ pts in 9 games


What happens if we take out the special team and defensive TD's?
I don't know for sure how low that number goes down? Somebody got the time to do the math for us?
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 10:51 am to
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if we win it all, best resume ever. doesn't mean we're the best team



I don't understand the distinction. How can a team have the best resume ever, and NOT be one of the best teams ever? Seems impossible.
Posted by denvertiger
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 10:51 am to
95 Nebraska is probably the team (in my lifetime) that was most impressive. But if this LSU team smokes their opponent in the BCSC game, you can probably add them to the conversation.
Posted by Joe Banks
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 10:53 am to
Here's another question are there any of the Nebraska teams on that great list?

Great defense
Solid special teams
Great offense but couldn't throw the ball to save their lives.

Does not being able to throw the ball take them out of the conversation?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 10:53 am to
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I don't understand the distinction.

it means that within our 1 year sample, we did the best against the competition we faced. doesn't mean that this team would beat another team with a lesser resume

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How can a team have the best resume ever, and NOT be one of the best teams ever? Seems impossible.

i'll use an easy example from this year: who is the better team, UGA (with a better resume) or Boise (who beat UGA by a good margin)?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 10:54 am to
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Does not being able to throw the ball take them out of the conversation?

wouldn't this argument apply to 2011 LSU?
Posted by Meaux Bettah
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 10:55 am to
Remember the undefeated Patriots!

Just can all this "best ever" talk til after the next game.
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 10:56 am to
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Based on the NFL success of the players off the 01 Miami team, you have to put them over LSU. Only time will tell as we look back in a few years to see how great this LSU MAY be. They havent won the Title yet. 01 Miami was incredible in every phase of the game. Clinton Portis backed up by Gore and McGahee with Andre Johnson and Shockey catching passes. Wow!

But their resume was inferior to this LSU team's resume.
Posted by Joe Banks
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 10:56 am to
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wouldn't this argument apply to 2011 LSU?


I'm the OP so yes.

This post was edited on 12/4/11 at 10:57 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 10:56 am to
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But their resume was inferior to this LSU team's resume.

exactly the point

better resume doesn't mean better team
Posted by Starchild
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 11:35 am to
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it means that within our 1 year sample, we did the best against the competition we faced. doesn't mean that this team would beat another team with a lesser resume



C'mon guys, I see where y'all are coming from but there can be no denying it if we throttle another top 3 team in the BCSCG. Greatest resume...yes, I agree unquestionably #1 all time.

But we are without a doubt in the conversation for GOAT. Not saying we're #1, but cetainly top 10 and maybe even top 5 which is more than enough for me. There are very few teams, if any, in the history of this sport that could beat this team. That is saying something.
Posted by HeadCoach
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 11:48 am to
I completely disagree. How do can you hav e the greratest season, but not one of the greatest teams? What are you basing this idea on exactly? What facts do you have? If we win our next game, this is one of the top 5 if not top 3 teams of all time. Proven on the field.
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