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re: Let's do some basic math regarding the basketball program, shall we?

Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:29 pm to
Posted by Septiger
Member since Nov 2020
2950 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:29 pm to
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And CMM will be here next year -



I think that depends on how the season plays out.

I’m looking at one or two more wins at most , at that point he may not be back .

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66712 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 2:14 pm to
The contract or ego would be the only reasons he’s retained. Any other AD would can him in March.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 2:26 pm to
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If we start winning it will easily rise to the second sport on campus




Not even a remote possibility.

Rabid fans watch college basketball, college basketball makes its money one month out of the year. When everybody does an office bracket and has no fricking idea who is good or bad. One month.

Posted by Vincenzo Pantangelli
Member since Nov 2024
1410 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 2:30 pm to
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2026 - $2,500,000 + $400,000 base
2027 - $2,600,000 + $400,000
2028 - $2,700,000 + $400,000
2029 - $2,800,000 + $400,000


He stealing
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
8230 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 2:33 pm to
Fans do not care enough about basketball to do a buyout of the $10 mil range. Who the hell hired this guy paying this no name $2.8 mil a year?
Posted by WDAIII
Member since Aug 2020
4205 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 3:02 pm to
This is a good analysis but the only reason you're getting downvoted is because everybody thinks you're Derek Ponamsky
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
14766 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 4:10 pm to
1. CMM is the second lowest paid HC in the SEC. Just info...

2. There is no consistent "best player" on this year's MBB team, IMO.

3. Unless some person or persons gives LSUAD $8-9 million designated to buy out CMM he will be LSU's HC next season. Don't care if we end up 1-17 in the SEC, he will be here in 25-26.

4. LSU Baseball LOSES money. It has not been a profit maker for a few seasons now and MOST LIKELY won't be again.

5. SEC media rights contract for 25-26 will designate several million per school for WBB for the first time. The ONLY reason any non-football sport at LSU turns a profit is because of SEC Media money. WBB will be moving in that direction.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17805 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:35 am to
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I think that depends on how the season plays out.

I’m looking at one or two more wins at most , at that point he may not be back .



If he doesn't win another game then it's still maybe. but if he win 2-3 more it's pretty much a lock.
Posted by Septiger
Member since Nov 2020
2950 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:47 am to
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If he doesn't win another game then it's still maybe. but if he win 2-3 more it's pretty much a lock.


Is that just your opinion or you know this for a fact?
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17805 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:05 am to
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Is that just your opinion or you know this for a fact?


The point I'm trying to make is not should he or shouldn't he, it's will he.

The should he or shouldn't he is a different discussion and it's been debated here daily by the 20 or so here who care enough about men's hoops to discuss.

And the fact that there are so few of us and apathy abounds elsewhere makes it much easier for Scott to let it ride another year. Outside our little men's basketball bubble here out in the real world ain't many talking about it and running around with pitchforks.

I've been asked what makes you believe he'll be back, and my retort is always what makes you think he'll not be back? I have not gotten that answer yet.

I've gotten why he shouldn't be back many times from many folks, but not what makes anyone think Scott will fire him this year. Because I do think they really don't believe he will either.
Posted by Septiger
Member since Nov 2020
2950 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 10:07 am to
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The point I'm trying to make is not should he or shouldn't he, it's will he.



He’s currently 12-31 in sec play since he’s been head coach, Best case scenario he wins 3 more conference games and finishes year three with a 15-39 sec record , that alone should be enough to get rid of him. ,
Posted by robertgamb
Member since Jan 2015
883 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 10:15 am to
Saying that Mcloser will be here next year,is just depressing it means another year of the shite show and probably 4-14 in the SEC. That just sucks!
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
45074 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 10:20 am to
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I've gotten why he shouldn't be back many times from many folks, but not what makes anyone think Scott will fire him this year. Because I do think they really don't believe he will either.
The reason you don't get an answer to what makes anyone think Scott will fire him this year is because no one knows.

But that's when the argument turns from one side saying Scott doesn't care about basketball and another poster going hardcore on saying Scott has had no issues firing coaches in the past.

Why he should be fired is an easy one. The program is stagnant with no signs of truly getting better and reaching yearly NCAAT levels. Instead, us diehards are relegated to hoping we win single games when we're an underdog in just about every one of them. Then we lose, as expected, the tone resorts back to state of the program, then we root to win the next individual game. Rinse, repeat. If we happen to pull off a victory, it's difficult to enjoy on the board in particular because all the "told ya so" posters spam the board taking victory laps for the program over a single win.


ETA: This is somewhat similar to the CJJ Ben Simmons season. He should have been fired after that debacle, everyone knew the program was dead. Instead, he's retained - just to retain him - and we proceed to go 2-16 in SEC and then fire him. Waiting an extra year when the writing is on the wall isn't a particularly smart move.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 10:27 am
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17805 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 12:52 pm to
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Why he should be fired is an easy one.


I have no shortage of answers and responses in this vein.

My opinion is he won't be - again the should he be is a totally different thread. I feel very confident he won't be, but I've been wrong before many times so time will tell.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17805 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 12:59 pm to
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He’s currently 12-31 in sec play since he’s been head coach, Best case scenario he wins 3 more conference games and finishes year three with a 15-39 sec record , that alone should be enough to get rid of him. ,


I'm not arguing that point one way or the other. Do you think he's going to be fired at the end of this year.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
45074 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 1:05 pm to
What drives your thought that you’re fairly certain he won’t be fired. I think someone asked but don’t remember the answer. Is it just a hunch or something based on past evidence?
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17805 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 4:40 pm to
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What drives your thought that you’re fairly certain he won’t be fired. I think someone asked but don’t remember the answer. Is it just a hunch or something based on past evidence?


I do know a prominent basketball booster very well and while that's not the reason I feel fairly certain he won't get fired, he likes CMM and I can tell you he's not in Scott's ear to fire him.

I just don't see this groundswell to oust CMM at any level other than a few posters here and Scott hired the guy so he's not in any hurry unless he feels some pressure - and it ain't there.

I mean I'll throw it to you drizz....do you think Scott is going to fire him at or near the end of this season?
Posted by hondo
Member since Oct 2006
1254 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 5:14 pm to
Has anyone seen Scott W. at a men’s basketball game this year.???
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
45074 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 5:22 pm to
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I do know a prominent basketball booster very well and while that's not the reason I feel fairly certain he won't get fired, he likes CMM and I can tell you he's not in Scott's ear to fire him.

I just don't see this groundswell to oust CMM at any level other than a few posters here and Scott hired the guy so he's not in any hurry unless he feels some pressure - and it ain't there.

I mean I'll throw it to you drizz....do you think Scott is going to fire him at or near the end of this season?
Hey Ugly, this is exactly what I was asking, thanks. I can see every part of it.

I have no idea what Scott is going to do. Alleva was and still is a POS. The worst.

I'm likely to tune out next season if we pretend it's all good.

I would never do that. shite, I was championing MBB with CJJ saying we got Ben Simmons.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29665 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 5:38 pm to
LSU WBB drained 7MM off the AD. That in one season covers McMahon and season 2 buys the players. Soooo
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 5:40 pm
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