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Let’s compare 2019 LSU to 2001 Miami

Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:14 pm
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
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Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:14 pm
How in the hell do people seriously try to argue that they 2001 Miami team is the best of all time? They didn’t even play a top ten team in the regular season. They beat the brakes off of every opponent sure, but let’s look at their competition.

Toughest road games were at #14 Virginia Tech and at #13 FSU. I don’t even consider that win at penn state a big win because they went 5-6 that season.
LSU played 4 top ten teams in the regular season.

Do people’s east coast bias really blind them that bad where they can’t even give LSU credit? The 2019 LSU fighting tigers are the greatest single season team of all time. It’s just ridiculous that idiots try to argue that they aren’t.
Posted by Tigerpaul1969
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:17 pm to
It’s because of their roster and how they played in the NFL. Hell, Clemson 2018 had a better resume than Miami 2001.
Posted by Jugular Joe
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:18 pm to
When you look at the talent that ended up playing in the NFL off that 01 Miami team, it's the primary reason they are in the argument. Plus the utter domination of it's opponents.

Yes the schedule doesn't come close to comparing.

I place LSU #1 because we saw what a healthy LSU defense looked like at the end of the season (we made wonder boy from Clemson look like total garbage), and the immense talent differential at the all important quarterback position (Ken Dorsey?, yeah no).



This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 9:22 pm
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:29 pm to
Ok I can see that then. Well people need to specify then because saying that team is the best of all time is not the same as saying that 2001 Miami roster was the best of all time.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:39 pm to
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When you look at the talent that ended up playing in the NFL off that 01 Miami team, it's the primary reason they are in the argument. Plus the utter domination of it's opponents.


Yes the NFL talent On that team was insane but when people talk about that team NFL talent they consider Willis McGahee, Frank Gore, Vince Wilfolk, Antrelle Rolle and Kellen Winslow Jr. Who were all freshman backups on that team. Kellen Winslow only had 2 catches all year and Clinton Portis was the number 1 RB who had over 200 rushes which was more than McGahee and Gore had combined in 2001.

That’s like counting Apu Zika, Emery, TDP, Flott, Maurice Hampton, etc that can easily become NFL players.
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
47343 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:47 pm to
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It’s because of their roster and how they played in the NFL.


This is the correct answer for the common reasoning, but, I believe the game has evolved tremendously in the past 20 years. LSU vs. Miami would be an LSU win in my opinion.
Posted by Tigerpaul1969
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:53 pm to
Another problem comparing the two is that there were no other elite teams in 2001. At all. The best they had to offer in the title game was a Nebraska team that got absolutely shredded by Colorado for over 60 points just running the ball down their throats. This year, we had three elite teams, maybe four if you count Alabama with a healthy Tua.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:55 pm to
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They didn’t even play a top ten team in the regular season.


But they did play 4 teams in the Top 15.

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They beat the brakes off of every opponent sure, but let’s look at their competition.


They let #14 Virginia Tech come back from a 20-3 halftime and were a failed 2-point conversion from overtime (Final 26-24) to finish the regular season.

But, they did absolutely crush #15 Syracuse, #11 Washington and #4 Nebraska (Rose/BCSCG) by a combined score of 161-21. Impressive, but not nearly as impressive as what LSU did in 2019 - particularly from November 9th onward.

LSU could have scored A HUNDRED on #4 Oklahoma. That's not hyperbole. That's more or less a given. :letthatsinkin:
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 9:57 pm
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:15 pm to
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LSU could have scored A HUNDRED on #4 Oklahoma. That's not hyperbole. That's more or less a given. :letthatsinkin:
Y'know, I get sportsmanship, karma, etc; all the reasons you don't do that to a team.

But after the blatant cheap shot on Clyde, I wish Coach O would have said frick it, and truly killed those frickers.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77890 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:34 pm to
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we made wonder boy from Clemson look like total garbage


This was the second best moment of the year after beating bama.
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 10:35 pm
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9400 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:46 pm to
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I wish Coach O would have said frick it, and truly killed those frickers


There was no point because you risk injuries in a game that doesn’t matter how much you win by. If it were a regular season game then yes we could benefit from style points. For example, if we could have kept the foot on their throats in Tuscaloosa, there would have never been a doubt that we’re #1.

33-13 at half should’ve been 46-20 final score.
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
25774 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:30 pm to
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It’s because of their roster and how they played in the NFL. Hell, Clemson 2018 had a better resume than Miami 2001.
This. We wont know how good this LSU team fared in the NFL collectively until 2030. That Miami team had so many elite NFL players. With that said, there shouldnt be much of a debate that 2019 LSU was the greatest team to date in college football.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:34 pm to
No intelligent college football fan wants to get into this argument

Miami has been held above a fake standard for far too long.
Posted by AustinKnight
Austin, TX
Member since May 2012
5842 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:39 pm to
History and Lore will grow for the 19’ Team

Give it time Grasshopper
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 11:42 pm
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12361 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:40 pm to
LSU 19 beats the brakes off 01 Miami. Different time different athletes, as great as they were. 95 Nebraska is the test and I think our speed in the back 7 controls Fraizer. No way they'd score with us. Offense wins if it's unstoppable. Clemson saw that.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30353 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:53 pm to
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Yes the NFL talent On that team was insane but when people talk about that team NFL talent they consider Willis McGahee, Frank Gore, Vince Wilfolk, Antrelle Rolle and Kellen Winslow Jr. Who were all freshman backups on that team. Kellen Winslow only had 2 catches all year and Clinton Portis was the number 1 RB who had over 200 rushes which was more than McGahee and Gore had combined in 2001


You left off probably the 2 best NFL players, Ed Reed and Andre Johnson.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9400 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 12:26 am to
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Miami has been held above a fake standard for far too long.


So damn true! they take sidewalk fan to the next level. It was unreal interacting with them. So awful.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44533 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 5:13 am to
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You left off probably the 2 best NFL players, Ed Reed and Andre Johnson.



his point was that the guys he listed were all backups on the 01 team. Ed Reed and Johnson were starters/ stars.
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12571 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 6:40 am to
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How in the hell do people seriously try to argue that they 2001 Miami team is the best of all time?


It’s not based off the 2001 season.

This team hit mythical status based off 02 draft and NFL careers...it’s that simple.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 7:06 am to
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You left off probably the 2 best NFL players, Ed Reed and Andre Johnson.


Thanks for understanding my point. Andre Johnson was the leading receiver in 2001 and Ed Reed was a bonafide star by that point so they don’t quite fit the point I was making.

Any time someone brings up the 2001 Miami vs 2019 LSU all you have to do is say. Who you want quarterbacking your team?

Joe Burrow or Ken Dorsey?
This post was edited on 7/3/20 at 7:07 am
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