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re: Let’s Be Real About Mainieri
Posted on 5/11/19 at 9:48 am to Howyouluhdat
Posted on 5/11/19 at 9:48 am to Howyouluhdat
quote:prove it's false. i have already cited the reasons. what part do you want to discuss again?
I don’t get why you keep making a completely false point
quote:yeah, facts and stuff.
It’s simply not true
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Posted on 5/11/19 at 9:52 am to tirebiter
quote:fine. list the programs who have facilities equal to lsu. i'm talking about indoor hitting, weights, locker rooms, pt, nutrition, premium fan areas. list the teams who are spending as much as lsu yearly. list the teams who have the recruiting prowess that lsu does. list the teams who have the fan support. now, put all that together and tell me about "parity."
I strongly question this.
quote:and who is responsible for bringing in the "talent"
Maybe PM has done a great job with the talent he has had the past 5 years?
quote:what about them? their cws record is astonishing
Look at UF et al
Posted on 5/11/19 at 9:56 am to bfniii
quote:
oh my word. based on what?
Are you kidding? Based on his on field results. In the last 10 years he’s made the CWS 3 times. Lost in a regional a handful more and didn’t make the postseason at all once. That is with a handful of top 5-10 recruiting classes. He brings in a lot of talent and consistently loses in Omaha the few times he’s been there. Something you hate on PM for. Open your eyes fricking hypocrite
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:01 am to bfniii
quote:
fine. list the programs who have facilities equal to lsu. i'm talking about indoor hitting, weights, locker rooms, pt, nutrition, premium fan areas.
LINK
These are all teams investing heavily in college baseball. Some right on lsu’s level
This post was edited on 5/11/19 at 10:02 am
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:12 am to Howyouluhdat
quote:yeah. about that. list the schools who have been more times and have a better record. you know i've already done this right?
Based on his on field results
quote:this characterization is hilarious. there are other programs that bring in "a lot of talent" and have a worse record. but you knew that already, right?
He brings in a lot of talent and consistently loses in Omaha the few times he’s been there
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:14 am to Howyouluhdat
quote:yep. they are. now, explain how teams who are investing less than lsu have a better cws record over the last several years.
These are all teams investing heavily in college baseball
quote:nope. false. you must have missed the list of questions i just asked. why don't you take a shot at it?
Some right on lsu’s level
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:15 am to bfniii
quote:
this characterization is hilarious. there are other programs that bring in "a lot of talent" and have a worse record. but you knew that already, right?
You say based on what. I tell you and you obviously have no argument against it but then proceed to defer the subject to another coach. Awesome.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:22 am to sta4ever
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He was a good coach and I’m thankful for what he has done at LSU, but it’s time. New blood in this program is desperately needed
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:24 am to bfniii
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yep. they are. now, explain how teams who are investing less than lsu have a better cws record over the last several years.
Wait what? Do you honestly think that hitting a particular dollar value translates to more wins? What do we have players and coaches for if we can just buy wins? The point is LSU isn’t on the level by themselves that they once were. Schools in the fricking Sun Belt are investing in baseball now. Do you get it? You think because LSU has a better indoor facility that that translates to wins in Omaha lol?
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:26 am to Howyouluhdat
I think it’s great that there is more parity in the sport,all the more reason to bring back some fire to the program
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:27 am to bfniii
quote:
quote:
Look at UF et al
what about them? their cws record is astonishing
What's astonishing? UF went to CWS multiple times with top end pitching and all around teams and Sully has 1 title, courtesy of LSU's lack of starting pitching depth. UF doesn't have fan support, but I would rather have players. You act like no nontraditional programs end up in the CWS while they do. Numerous teams from Texas have played in the CWS in recent years. I'm not a PM apologist and LSU should be much better than 2018/2019 have been, and that is on the staff. Still doesn't mean LSU should be in Omaha every year.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:28 am to sta4ever
quote:WRONG! Mainieri can not be replaced at least not easily and especially by YOU EFFIN LOSERS!
He’s not a bad coach. You don’t win as many games as he did by mistake. He just always choked in Omaha except in 2009. His time has ran out.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:29 am to DeplorableTigerFan
Good morning, Tiger Fans,
Folks, I don’t even know where to begin. With an 11-6 loss, the LSU baseball team has now suffered five consecutive losses. Baseball is a funny game and slumps happen, but that’s not what this is about. No, this team, at this time, has serious problems. They lack fire, they lack consistency, and most of all, they lack pitching, as evidenced by the fact that the Tigers have given up 56 runs in the past four games. And that’s part of what makes last night’s loss so disheartening.
from Dabdy Don
Folks, I don’t even know where to begin. With an 11-6 loss, the LSU baseball team has now suffered five consecutive losses. Baseball is a funny game and slumps happen, but that’s not what this is about. No, this team, at this time, has serious problems. They lack fire, they lack consistency, and most of all, they lack pitching, as evidenced by the fact that the Tigers have given up 56 runs in the past four games. And that’s part of what makes last night’s loss so disheartening.
from Dabdy Don
This post was edited on 5/11/19 at 10:31 am
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:29 am to sta4ever
quote:
Let’s Be Real About Mainieri by sta4ever
This team has ZERO PASSION... And not as good of players than we 1st thought.............
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:33 am to Howyouluhdat
quote:what you told me was highly subjective. break it down with facts like i do. show recruiting results. compare cws win/loss records. add in facilities and budget data. then tell me how van horn is "underachieving." or just keep being an arse.
I tell you
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:33 am to tigernation56
They lack real leadership,something the Mainieri minions refuse to recognize
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:38 am to sta4ever
Watching his demeanor and all that he has gone though this year, I suspect he is battling depression. It can be a subtle ailment and can really alter who you really are. He has never been a dynamic person or personality, but he really appears as if he has pulled himself into a shell...and this will reflect on the team. He has been dealt some bad cards this year.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:38 am to Howyouluhdat
quote:
Do you honestly think that hitting a particular dollar value translates to more wins?
does this even need explanation? especially when combined with every other metric i have included. every pro team ever operates on this premise. but you knew that already right?
so let's take the opposite, if money doesn't matter, why spend any? just spend little to nothing and still rake in the wins. good grief. it's like trying to reason with a 5 year old.
quote:and this is still wrong no matter how many times it's parroted. SOME programs have closed the gap in SOME areas. lsu is second to none overall. no question about it. yet, the results don't really reflect that do they? why is that?
The point is LSU isn’t on the level by themselves that they once were
quote:and this is yet more evidence that the pm crew can't be reasoned with. you're just not even rational. of course it absolutely means that. why do you think the best programs have them? my word. use your own argument. if it didn't matter, why spend the money on it in the first place? just have the players taking bp out in the parking lot. you have them because they create advantages. lsu has the most advantages, all things considered. it's just not even controversial
You think because LSU has a better indoor facility that that translates to wins in Omaha lol?
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:43 am to tirebiter
quote:the record compared to everyone else?
What's astonishing?
quote:ah geez here we go again. the pm crew had their coffee this morning
UF went to CWS multiple times with top end pitching and all around teams and Sully has 1 title
"pm can't be expected to win it all every year" but "sully/corbin suck because they don't win it all enough." do you see the flaw in this reasoning? it's called special pleading.
quote:and here is the obligatory mischaracterization of my position. when have i ever said ANYTHING like this?
You act like no nontraditional programs end up in the CWS while they do
quote:all things considered, lsu should be in omaha as much as anyone, especially over a longer period of time given lsu's investment in the sport. it's called return on investment and pm has not brought that. now if you want to argue the new "negligible" angle that the pm crew has taken, fine. it's semantics that the pm crew is now turning to when faced with the brute facts i have been presenting.
Still doesn't mean LSU should be in Omaha every year
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:49 am to Fayetteville Tiger
That meal and soft spoken demeanor in public is Pure BS! The guy is Flaming Jackass when the public and media are not around. I just wish the majority of the fan base knew the stories and things of how he really is and the way he treats the team!
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