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re: Les on qb battle after day 1
Posted on 3/8/15 at 12:05 am to noonan
Posted on 3/8/15 at 12:05 am to noonan
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Where the hell did the OP's quote come from? Because the OP's quote is nothing like what Les said.
I am curious too. Either he said it somewhere else or was severely misquoted by the OP.
This post was edited on 3/8/15 at 12:07 am
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Posted on 3/8/15 at 12:05 am to la_birdman
You do realize that everything that is posted does not always relate to the topic......
Posted on 3/8/15 at 12:06 am to 15forHeisman
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You do realize that everything that is posted does not always relate to the topic......
I know, it sucks. People should really try to stay on topic.
Posted on 3/8/15 at 12:06 am to 15forHeisman
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You do realize that everything that is posted does not always relate to the topic......
No. Not at all. You got me. You win.
Posted on 3/8/15 at 12:13 am to la_birdman
The people that tend to agrue with me believe that brandon Harris is as bad as Anothony jennings.... So you tell me.... Who do you want under center in front of 100,000 + on Saturday nights....
Posted on 3/8/15 at 12:17 am to 15forHeisman
I think Jennings gives it his best shot, I really do. But I don't think he's an SEC QB but be that as it might be, I'm not about to dump on the kid.
I admire his work ethic and dedication to the team though.
I think Brandon Harris is better, just from the little bit I've seen him play, but I trust the coaches.
Who do I want out there? What I want doesn't matter.
We'll see. I trust the coaches.
I'm done wasting my time on your nonsense.
I admire his work ethic and dedication to the team though.
I think Brandon Harris is better, just from the little bit I've seen him play, but I trust the coaches.
Who do I want out there? What I want doesn't matter.
We'll see. I trust the coaches.
I'm done wasting my time on your nonsense.
This post was edited on 3/8/15 at 12:37 am
Posted on 3/8/15 at 12:28 am to dash-right-93-berlin
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We had a want blah blah to get Brandon in , blah blah but the opportunity never manifested on the field of battle blah blah with these fine young men . Blah blah blah . I feel for our wide receivers
...and to think just yesterday, there was a thread bitching about CPM being too blunt and telling it like it is....
Posted on 3/8/15 at 12:29 am to la_birdman
Thank you for clarifying that sloppy play on the field is ok if the player tries real hard in practice.... Is that how it works in he pros if a player tries real hard in practice he'll start.... Preparation will only take one so far and in the sec you better be superior talented to challenge the defenses we play week after week... Anothony Jennings does not possess the arm strength or accuracy to pose a threat to any defense.... Not to mention he rarly goes through his reads....
This post was edited on 3/8/15 at 12:33 am
Posted on 3/8/15 at 12:32 am to Hot Carl
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thoughts:
1) Miles and Cameron desperately want Harris to step up and win the job. Desperately
2) They are not going to give Harris the job--he will have to drop his nuts and take it.
3) Harris has the much higher ceiling, but--as bad as he was--Jennings probably has the higher floor. And if he can improve just a little bit, we'll be competitive in all our games.
4) Yes, '08 fricked Les relative to QBs. It's why he never trusted Lee again, even 3 years afterward. He shite his pants against Bama in '11 and Les remembered he was a mental midget.
5) Les did not love JJ. On the contrary, I bet he scared him to death. He just scared him a little less than Jarrett Lee did.
6) Contrary to popular(albeit dumb-as-all-frick)"logic", Jennings can get better. To think he's peaked as a true Sophomore is ab-fricking-surd. His ceiling is not high, but it's high enough to be successful. It's certainly as high as the Lee/Jefferson '11 tandem.
7) practice actually fricking matters. I know a lot of you(Maximus) think practice means nothing("practice, we talkin' bout practice?"), but practice is where coaches--and more importantly teammates--realize who they can count on. If I can't count on you in practice, I damn sure can't count on you in games.
8) I want Harris to win the job. We NEED Harris to win the job. But if he doesnt, that is 100% on him. There is no conspiracy to keep him away from the starting Quarterback position if he's deserving. If you think there is, I'm sorry you're that fricking stupid. Prayers sent.
9) We can reach our zenith if Harris's balls drop and he owns the QB position. We could be unreal. But if he doesnt, and Jennings improves like a normal 2nd year- 3rd year progression, we can still win the West, win the SEC, and win the whole goddammit thing. If you don't think so, if you think we'll ever lose less than 5 games with Jennings, then frick YOU! You are a shite fan and I will fight you to prove it lol.
Everything about this post is 100% accurate. Especially #8. There are 4 dead brain morons that down voted that.
Well done as usual, Carl
Posted on 3/8/15 at 12:37 am to Prominentwon
Posted on 3/8/15 at 12:42 am to 15forHeisman
Dude, there is not a single person that doesn't want better from the QB position. Just because you aren't happy with the position does not mean you have some insight that none of us see.
The problem is, you seem to think that by simply starting someone else suddenly the problem is solved.
Les is starting the player that he and the other coaches agree gives us the best chance to win. Just about every person wants Harris to start, but if he's not starting it's not because Les is just some dummy that doesn't know what he is doing.
The problem is, you seem to think that by simply starting someone else suddenly the problem is solved.
Les is starting the player that he and the other coaches agree gives us the best chance to win. Just about every person wants Harris to start, but if he's not starting it's not because Les is just some dummy that doesn't know what he is doing.
Posted on 3/8/15 at 12:46 am to Hot Carl
....and just so I can add my worthless .02 in here..
Here are my thoughts on the QB situation. you guys keep arguing with 15 and Red in his thread. Red sat behind Harris in class at Parkview. Hes might be 16 years old so he plays with to that agenda. I'm sure 15 has some similar slant.
Anyway....
As far as Miles choosing a QB....
Here are my thoughts on the QB situation. you guys keep arguing with 15 and Red in his thread. Red sat behind Harris in class at Parkview. Hes might be 16 years old so he plays with to that agenda. I'm sure 15 has some similar slant.
Anyway....
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First, I think Harris should start. Let's get that out of the way.
We remember so much about Jefferson and Lee and their average to below average play, our minds are stuck on that because it felt like they were here for 7 years. Cam and Les can't develop a QB. Did they not develop Mett? Did Les not develop Flynn? Or let me guess, that was residuals from Saban, right?
Harris is young and fans, like you, don't have the the patience to let young kids grow up. 95% of the time, it doesn't matter who it is, the QB position isn't ready and won't play like a veteran until their Junior year. There are exceptions to the rule, of course, but most of the time...that's the case.
Unfortunately, Les had no options between Jefferson and Lee. Others transferred or went to play baseball. Or lied and backed out of their commitments. Timing could not have been worse.
Also, because of agendas, people will absolutely refuse to believe that Harris does have maturity issues. Doesn't know the playbook. Why is Harris infallible and it's all the head coaches fault? Kid has to shoulder the responsibility as well. It's ridiculous. I just started a new job 2 months ago, and I STILL don't know how to do half the things I'm supposed to. I'm learning but it will take a while. it's about learning new habits and about repitition.
Football coaches aren't going to go into games thinking about the future. They want to win today. Why throw away about season To let one kid gain experience, a freshman, while seniors and older players are playing their last game? Why up your odds to lose and ruin these guys last year and lose even more by giving the keys to a kid that doesn't know what he's doing? It sends the wrong message and ups your possibilities of losing even more games. Play for today. Not tomorrow. Maybe Jennings DID give LSU a better shot at winning last season. Doesn't mean he gives them the best shot next season.
Miles WANTS Harris as QB. I think that is proven by him opening it back up and his constant media quotes about how they need improvements at QB. Yet, I find that people like to bitch about bout Miles so much that they can't take a step back and see that. It's obviously more fun to start thread after thread whining about the qb spot and how it will NEVER be solid again, Nevermind were a year removed from a ridiculous seas on by Mettenberger.
As far as Miles choosing a QB....
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it's Harris. I think that's proven by opening the competition back up. He's giving him plenty of time and opportunities this n spring and summer to take the reigns.
I think last year, the best opportunity to win was with Jennings. Ultimately, I think Jennings turns out to be a stop gap.
There's no coach on this planet that plays for next year like all the fans wanted. Sorry LSU ended up with 8 wins instead of 6.
This post was edited on 3/8/15 at 12:48 am
Posted on 3/8/15 at 12:52 am to noonan
I understood starting Jennings at the beginning of last season because he probably did give us the best chance to win but after we had lost to Bama.... TBH our season was over... Now tell me that if you where the coach you wouldn't be thinking about getting your future qb some valuable playing time in the next few games... But we didn't and that's what bothers me... We didn't give him one snap to learn and develop we wouldn't let him hit the field when our offense couldn't get a point on the board against ark. That's why I have a problem with Les and question his judgement.
This post was edited on 3/8/15 at 12:54 am
Posted on 3/8/15 at 2:15 am to Mrtommorrow1987
you guys have never thought about this. He's trying to cover Jennings arse to make him look good like he's not abandoning him because he knows Harris is about to be the starter and he doesn't want to put jennings under the bus...u don't know les by now? Lol
Posted on 3/8/15 at 2:18 am to 15forHeisman
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Now tell me that if you where the coach you wouldn't be thinking about getting your future qb some valuable playing time in the next few games
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There's no coach on this planet that plays for next year like all the fans wanted. Sorry LSU ended up with 8 wins instead of 6.
To add, regardless of the prestige, or lack thereof, LSU gets a payout from their bowl game. The higher the bowl game, the higher the payout. If you think valuable playing time should have been the only thing considered, you must not have bosses, or a bottom line to appease.
Posted on 3/8/15 at 2:49 am to JaxTiger10
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Miles has put more qbs in the nfl than any program not names Georgia and Bama.
If you have to lie in order to make your case, then your case has no merit
First, of the 3 Qbs that "Miles" sent to the NFL, 2 were tutored by Jimbo Fisher. Who sent Josh Booty, Rohan Davey, and Matt Mauck, before Miles arrived. And has sent Ponder, Manuel, and Winston since he left? And Mett got experience at 2 others places before Miles 'sent' him to the NFL
But even giving Miles credit for 3, youre still a liar. During Miles 10 years at LSU:
5 - Alabama (Brodie Croyle, John Parker Wilson, Greg McElroy, McCarron, and Sims)
4 - Texas A&M (Reggie McNeal, Stephen McGee, Tannehill & Manziel)
4 - Tenn - (Erik Ainge, Jonathan Crompton, Matt Sims, Tyler Bray)
3 - UGa - (D. J. Shockley, Stafford, Murray)
3 - Mizzou - (Brad Smith, Daniel, Gabbert)
2 - Auburn - (Jason Campbell, Cam)
2 - Florida - (Chris Leak, Tebow)
Posted on 3/8/15 at 2:50 am to Prominentwon
How do you know we loss 2 more with Harris what did Jennings do to win us the ole miss game.... Or the Arkansas game.... Please explain
Posted on 3/8/15 at 2:52 am to Prominentwon
And at LSU it's either BCS bowl or bust playing in the music city year in and out will get you fired
Posted on 3/8/15 at 3:58 am to 15forHeisman
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after we had lost to Bama.... TBH our season was over...
You tell that to the seniors & the juniors who played their asses off in those final games. Do you really think the staff has any chance getting juniors like Vadal Alexander & Gerald Hawkins to come back if they gave up on games?
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We didn't give him one snap to learn and develop we wouldn't let him hit the field when our offense couldn't get a point on the board against ark.
Here is what you & people like you fail to realize. Playing time for a quarterback just for "experience" sake can be even more detrimental to develop than not playing at all. If a quarterback is having problems in fundementals as simple as footwork or proper form in delivery, playing through those won't allow growth & can worsen the issues. Throw in not completely knowing the playbook & what you get is a clusterfrick like the Auburn game. Don't believe me?
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Cam Cameron was determined to prove his point, no matter how many laps around the LSU practice fields in the sweltering Bayou humidity it took. The message Cameron was aiming to teach his precocious 18-year-old early enrolled quarterback was that, no matter what, he could not keep taking that dang false step.
"It's gonna get us beat," Cameron kept telling the kid. "You're gonna be late."
Brandon Harris had been doing it ever since he arrived in Baton Rouge. Heck, he did it in high school too. But those days were over -- although Cameron's message actually reached more than just his young QB.
"We don't take a punch step for a right hander," Cameron said. "We pivot on our left foot. We think that allows us to get the ball out faster, whether it's off of one step or a quick three or a quick five."
Harris got away with being a step more deliberate in high school. In the SEC, Cameron warned him, that extra step was going to muck everything up and probably would translate into some Pick-6s. So the coach started keeping tabs on Harris' footwork. Every false step in every rep meant an extra lap after practice.
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But we didn't and that's what bothers me...
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That's why I have a problem with Les and question his judgement.
Here's the thing. The coaching staff nor do fans who have better understanding, give a flying frick about what some dumbass like you seems to think.
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And at LSU it's either BCS bowl or bust
If LSU makes another BCS Bowl then something is really wrong since the BCS no longer exist. I would expect someone who is so "knowledgeable" in the aspects of collegiate football to know this. Dumbass.
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