re: Les Miles vs. Nick Saban

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However, I never had a problem with Saban leaving us for Miami, or leaving Miami for Bama.

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sure,at the time I wish he'd stayed.Didn't blame him wanting to coach college again.

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Dude was taking care of his family, and none of us would have done differently.

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Now that is insane. He didn't leave one bank branch making $60k to move across town for $85k at another one. LSU was paying him a fortune. If he wanted to try the NFL,more power to him.But with the money he was making,spare us the 'best for the family' garbage. If he had truly done what was best for his family,he'd stayed in Baton Rouge.

If he had stayed here? I agree his team doesn't blow that lead. His first game at a new program? Not too sure.

Could someone please anchor this moronic thread?

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but your wrong about 2005, they would have gone unbeaten with JR and contended for another BCS title.

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the refs at Auburn game ruined our party

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after Katrina with Saban as coach.Had he been coaching during all of that,his personality and me first attitude

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Yep. The post about the Tennessee game was silly. Saban's rested '04 team couldn't stay on the field vs UGa in Athens. To say it would have been different in 2005 with a saban coached team playing UGa as an 11th game in 10 weeks is simply dumb. Without UGa tanking, we weren't going to win that one whether under Saban, Miles, or Bill Belichick.

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the refs at Auburn game ruined our party

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that was '06, LSU's only loss in "05 was that blown game against Tenn, and a Saban coached defense would not have gone into that SEC chanp game against UGA like they did and get blown out.

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a Saban coached defense would not have gone into that SEC chanp game against UGA like they did and get blown out.

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How did that mighty Saban defense do the year before vs Georgia ?

and your a moron for sayin because he is a DB specialist the guy playin DB for LSU should have not gotten beaten, what is Saban supposed to do, step on the field and show him how to do his job?

Here we go again....

Saban has consistantly been proven to lose three games a year. His lone exceptions were LSU in his third year and Bama last year.

Period.

His other 14 years went status quo. Look it up. Everyone pretty much expects a three loss, perhaps more, loss season at Bama this year.

So why isn't Saban going to win a NC (like he did at year three at LSU) when all the kids are his now? And why are many now thinking (moreso just recently) that LSU is the team to beat in the West?

Let's once again compare the coaches.

No one questions Saban's recruiting ability. However, if you look at ALL THREE of his recruiting classes at Bama, you'd see Miles is just as good over the last three years.

In fact, despite the fact Bama alleges two recruiting NC'c Miles' three year player/ star average is higher than Sabans.

Let's look at the records.

If you look at all 5 of his years at LSU, you'd realize Miles has the better record. While Saban
won the SEC in 2001 he also had seasons of 9-3, 8-4, and.....hmm.... 8-5.

That's right, Saban, three years into the system, will all that talent and all his recruiting, went 8-5 at LSU with skull drag 24 point losses to Auburn, 31 point loss to bama and 15 point loss to Texas, and a miracle win over UK.

How about that for a downhill free fall, or have you forgotten?

Just for the record:

Miles' worst year was better than Sabans
worst year.

Now compare the coaching technique,

Miles is a great offensive mind. Saban is a master defensive mind. Both are clearly better
in their respective speciality. The difference is that Miles surrounds himself while Saban tries to stand alone.

Miles openly admits he no defensive guru. Saban can't admit he knows little when it comes to offense, and goes through OC every year.

Saban is a control freak and Miles is not. And therein lies a huge difference between the two.

And this why Saban will eventually fail.

In the new age of coaching salaries, OC's and DC's (worth a damn) will command MUCH bigger salaries than now. That's why LSU is ahead of the curve, and Bama/Saban are not. $$$ not withstanding, No OC's worth a damn will work for Saban anymore.

Most OC's would do back flips to coach with Miles.
And so it goes with the rest of the staff, like our defensive coaches back whose salary we tripled
and took away from Steve Spurrier, who also suffers from the same type of problems Saban has.


If you ask me who'd I pick, the choice for a new millenium is obvious.

It's Miles, or someone like him.

The days of a Paterno, or Bear Bryant, Bowden,
etc., are just about gone. Either Saban will have to adapt, or the game will leave him behind, IMO, a lot like the way it's leaving Steve Spurrier at USC.

You're a complete fool to think otherwise. even most journalists, like Barhart at AJC who always despised Miles, now understands the Miles, and LSU, to the point where they think LSU will now be better than Bama.

Miles has only made one mistake in 5 years. He was very loyal and gave his buds a shot at DC. Unlike DiNardo, when it failed, Miles took care of it.

It's a shame you still can't see the whole picture. I assure you, Miles is a overall better coach than Saban.

What a terrible first year, Miles beats FLORIDA, ALABAMA, AUBURN, OLE MISS, and ARKANSAS. Do you want to know how many times saban did that? NEVER. Not one time did saban beat all those teams in one year. His record against those teams is 13-7. That is pretty good, especially since most of those losses came last year. And only 1 of those games was a real blowout.