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re: Les Miles vs. Nick Saban

Posted on 4/7/09 at 11:03 am to
Posted by NationalChampionLSU
...til I die
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Posted on 4/7/09 at 11:03 am to
I think Saban regretted that he left the LSU team for the NFL, and he wanted to be back in the SEC where competitive teams play. He chose Bama because Bama has the all-time winningest record in the SEC. Think so?

Some of you may hate him because you hate us playing against him every fricking year. Right?
This post was edited on 4/7/09 at 11:29 am
Posted by lsucoon
Member since Jan 2007
1592 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 11:05 am to
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He chose Bama because he wants to win like the Bear

Posted by LSU2THEMAX
Shreveport
Member since Dec 2008
851 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 11:16 am to
Wait until this fall. You will see a major turnaround in LSU. The QB situation is much better although there will likely still be some flux in the situation until we settle on the best way to use the talent. In my opinion, the defense was the biggest failure for LSU last year. They cost us more losses than did JL. Miles took care of that by cleaning house and hiring maybe the best group of defensive coaches in America.

On the other hand, Alabama was way overrated last year. They won a few big ones, but were lucky to win as much as they did. Even with Lee's interceptions, LSU played them to a standstill and Utah crushed them in the Sugar Bowl after Florida took them down in the SEC Championship. This year they will also be dealing with a new QB. We saw last year what that position can mean to a team.

LSU 10-2, Alabama 8-4 in 2009. On caveat - Alabama has the weakest schedule in the SEC. The chicken suckers don't play either Florida or Georgia.
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15757 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 11:18 am to
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I know many of you will think this is Germans
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Posted by NationalChampionLSU
...til I die
Member since Aug 2004
8313 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 11:20 am to
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Wait until this fall. You will see a major turnaround in LSU. The QB situation is much better although there will likely still be some flux in the situation until we settle on the best way to use the talent. In my opinion, the defense was the biggest failure for LSU last year. They cost us more losses than did JL. Miles took care of that by cleaning house and hiring maybe the best group of defensive coaches in America.

On the other hand, Alabama was way overrated last year. They won a few big ones, but were lucky to win as much as they did. Even with Lee's interceptions, LSU played them to a standstill and Utah crushed them in the Sugar Bowl after Florida took them down in the SEC Championship. This year they will also be dealing with a new QB. We saw last year what that position can mean to a team.

LSU 10-2, Alabama 8-4 in 2009. On caveat - Alabama has the weakest schedule in the SEC. The chicken suckers don't play either Florida or Georgia


Now you blame JL for our losses? Wrong, the head coach is the one that decides who the starting QB is.
Posted by LSUBCSCHAMPS11
Member since Jan 2009
2003 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 11:25 am to
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Taking off your P&G glasses, people would say Nick Saban is better than Les Miles. Nick Saban came to Baton Rouge when LSU was a mediocre program in the nation, and he has turned the program around in just three years. However, Les Miles inherited Nick Saban's team and had the team going at 8-5 record last year (downhill).

At Bama, Nick Saban is god because he turned the program around in just two years, beating Les Miles and his LSU team - a defending NC- at their house. I know many of you will think this is Germans, but this is the truth. LSU's records would have been better if we still had Saban here. Thanks.

Your opinions are welcome !


In a way I agree with this, but not for the same reasons. Miles made little mistakes throughout his first 3 years at LSU. This year they all just finally appeared and resulted in an 8-5 season. SO if Saban were still here(im glad hes not) things wouldve been different and we couldve possibly had a better record. HOwever we will never know and things are how they are so just accept them. I mean we are in the top 10 preseason poll going into this season, have a great new defensive staff, a great knew recruiting class, and a team that thinks they have something to prove. I mean why keep going back to one down year out of four, instead of looking at the good of the past and the excitment about this coming season.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135391 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 11:25 am to
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Now you blame JL for our losses? Wrong, the head coach is the one that decides who the starting QB is.


This thread is funnier than visions of Larry the Cable Guy meeting Queen Elizabeth.
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
21590 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 11:27 am to
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He chose Bama because Bama has the winningest record in the SEC. Think so?


No, he chose Bama because it was the best program open at the time.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36804 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 11:33 am to
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Some of you may hate him because you hate us playing against him every fricking year. Right?


Don't hate him at all. I do think this is a stupid thread since its been hashed out about 1,000 different times over.

Bama can have him. I'll take Miles.
Posted by NewGuy01
Internet
Member since Nov 2008
4243 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 11:35 am to
I do not believe Les Miles could have turned our program around as quickly, and in such a dominating fashion, as Saban did. Having said that, I also do not believe Saban would have been more successful than Miles in the time that Miles has been here.

Last year, Miles gave his loyal staff members a shot at a promotion, when they failed, he replaced them with what appear to be quality replacements. He was also screwed on offense with the qb situation.

Overall, while this could be (and has been) debated at great length I believe given the current state of the program, that Miles is a better fit than Saban. He has proven it with quality of staff, recruiting, character, loyalty, wins,and hardware.
Posted by Geauxst
Gonzales, LA
Member since Nov 2003
486 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 11:36 am to
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Now you blame JL for our losses? Wrong, the head coach is the one that decides who the starting QB is.


Well.....your boy did a piss poor job in 2004 deciding - or not deciding - who the starting QB should be. Just sayin.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 11:36 am to
Miles > Saban
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 11:38 am to
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quote:
his family, his wife, did not want them going to miami. He brought a kid with a drug problem to south beach

thanks Mrs. Saban.


ur welcome a-hole
Posted by CalLSU
Shreveport, la
Member since Feb 2009
911 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 11:38 am to
WOW, well since you put absolutely no facts to base your statement on here are a few for you - Les Miles is 14-6 in games decided by 7 points or fewer. The next best coach to that mark is Mack Brown. Les Miles is 19-0 in non-conference games. That includes wins against Virginia Tech, Miami, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Georgia Tech, Arizona State and Arizona. He hasn't even been contested in a bowl game, and the teams he played in those games weren't terrible. he is 44-12 as a head coach at LSU. he has been to 2 SECCG won 1, won a NC and had 3 seasons in a row where he won at least 10 games. I know you think he did it all with Saban recruits, but someone had to coach them. ANd they weren't playing against ULM every week. If you think Saban is a good coach, fine, he is a good coach. But i am really sick of this argument that says that Miles hasn't done anything yet. He won 44 games. He was the coach of those games not Saban
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 11:40 am to
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WOW, well since you put absolutely no facts to base your statement on here are a few for you - Les Miles is 14-6 in games decided by 7 points or fewer. The next best coach to that mark is Mack Brown. Les Miles is 19-0 in non-conference games. That includes wins against Virginia Tech, Miami, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Georgia Tech, Arizona State and Arizona. He hasn't even been contested in a bowl game, and the teams he played in those games weren't terrible. he is 44-12 as a head coach at LSU. he has been to 2 SECCG won 1, won a NC and had 3 seasons in a row where he won at least 10 games. I know you think he did it all with Saban recruits, but someone had to coach them. ANd they weren't playing against ULM every week. If you think Saban is a good coach, fine, he is a good coach. But i am really sick of this argument that says that Miles hasn't done anything yet. He won 44 games. He was the coach of those games not Saban


ding, ding, ding. end thread

The best 86th post ever.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 11:41 am to
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NationalChampionLSU


People like you are the reason everyone thinks we're obsessed with Saban.
Posted by CalLSU
Shreveport, la
Member since Feb 2009
911 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 11:42 am to
thank you
Posted by Globalx39
Where I live
Member since Jun 2006
804 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 11:42 am to
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Les Miles inherited Nick Saban's team and had the team going at 8-5 record last year (downhill).


And what was Saban's record here his last season?

Continuing in this thought process are you implying that Miles ressurrected this team after Saban led it downhill in his last season?

as most have said Miles is the better fit for team now. So whose alter are you?
Posted by Durrell
Member since Jan 2009
613 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 11:44 am to
Would much rather have Miles.Yes his record speaks for itelf.Satan has never had 2back to back 10 win seasons Miles has had 3 11 plus win seasons in row...Miles wins BIG GAMES aot more than Satan.Satan did not want to stay @LSU MILES DID.Remember Michigan called.MILEs is loyal to his program.Satan is a whore to his. enough said
Posted by FemaleTiger
neverneverland
Member since Jul 2008
845 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 11:45 am to
Please just stop with this stupid bullshite. It just goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on! You get my point! :beatdeadhorse:
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