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re: Les Miles / Jimbo Fisher Story

Posted on 8/11/16 at 7:51 am to
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 7:51 am to
I read the texts with my own eyes. L Cook is Fishers best friend and jimbo told him it was a done deal....that he was offered and accepted.
Jumbo wanted out and away from whore wife.

And then the weekend hapoened.

The rest is irrelevant because Miles ended up being retained.

But absolutely Fisher was to 've out next coach
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7026 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:16 am to
Lawyers... Can't all of this be proven with a simple public records request?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:34 am to
quote:

Has been the worst planned and imaginative scheming in D1 football the last 3 years.


Finished the 2014 season with a more productive offense than Ohio State ,FSU and Bama.

The last 3 years weve had 2 productive offenses and 1 bad offense where pir entire skill position corp were true freshman and true sophomores.

But hey dont let facts get in the way of you posting ignorant shite.


Name the cfb offenses that are running these innovative and imaginative offenses. Its dumbasses like you that dont realize that all these great spread offenses run the same fricking play half the time. Educate yourself about cfb.

2013= productive offense
2014= very young and inexperienced across the board on offense ( lost a senior qb,2 1000 yard wrs,and a rb that had hust set the sec ypc record)
2015=productive offense
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 8:39 am
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7228 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:37 am to
quote:

Humanelement

You're clearly retarded so I'm gonna try to be nice here and stick to just the stats. You keep saying "the last 3 years" but I have some numbers for you from 2013 that prove you wrong. 2014 and 15, the passing game was a weakness, so we needed to run more. You would understand if you knew anything at all about the game.


quote:

TEAM STATISTICS  LS  OPP 
SCORING  465  286 
   Points Per Game  35.8  22.0 
FIRST DOWNS  287  246 
   Rushing  121  103 
   Passing  146  124 
   Penalty  20  19 
RUSHING YARDAGE  2630  1862 
   Yards gained rushing  2945  2179 
   Yards lost rushing  315  317 
   Rushing Attempts  523  474 
   Average Per Rush  5.0  3.9 
   Average Per Game  202.3  143.2 
   TDs Rushing  37  15 
PASSING YARDAGE  3263  2567 
   Comp-Att-Int  205-326-9  223-398-11 
   Average Per Pass  10.0  6.4 
   Average Per Catch  15.9  11.5 
   Average Per Game  251.0  197.5 
   TDs Passing  23  15 
TOTAL OFFENSE  5893  4429 
   Total Plays  849  872 
   Average Per Play  6.9  5.1 
   Average Per Game  453.3  340.7 
KICK RETURNS: #-Yards  36-917  40-926 
PUNT RETURNS: #-Yards  23-172  15-47 
INT RETURNS: #-Yards  11-76  9-173 
KICK RETURN AVERAGE  25.5  23.1 
PUNT RETURN AVERAGE  7.5  3.1 
INT RETURN AVERAGE  6.9  19.2 
FUMBLES-LOST  15-10  22-8 
PENALTIES-Yards  90-732  69-530 
   Average Per Game  56.3  40.8 
PUNTS-Yards  43-1765  61-2561 
   Average Per Punt  41.0  42.0 
   Net punt average  38.1  37.5 
KICKOFFS-Yards  86-5436  60-3792 
   Average Per Kick  63.2  63.2 
   Net kick average  39.4  38.3 
TIME OF POSSESSION/Game  30:00  30:00 
3RD-DOWN Conversions  92/161  72/188 
   3rd-Down Pct  57%  38% 
4TH-DOWN Conversions  3/9  9/21 
   4th-Down Pct  33%  43% 
SACKS BY-Yards  27-180  25-196 
MISC YARDS  100  0 
TOUCHDOWNS SCORED  61  32 
FIELD GOALS-ATTEMPTS  13-14  21-26 
ON-SIDE KICKS  0-0  1-3 
RED-ZONE SCORES  (47-56) 84%  (35-43) 81% 
RED-ZONE TOUCHDOWNS  (37-56) 66%  (21-43) 49% 
PAT-ATTEMPTS  (60-61) 98%  (31-31) 100% 
ATTENDANCE  639927  312840 
   Games/Avg Per Game  7/91418  4/78210 
   Neutral Site Games    2/65763 
Score by quarters  1st  2nd  3rd  4th  Total 
LSU  131  114  103  117  465 
Opponents  52  105  75  54  286 
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:41 am to
quote:

You're clearly retarded so I'm gonna try to be nice here and stick to just the stats. You keep saying "the last 3 years" but I have some numbers for you from 2013 that prove you wrong. 2014 and 15, the passing game was a weakness, so we needed to run more. You would understand if you knew anything at all about the gam


Even our 2015 offense was productive. We lacked balance but that in of itself doesnt mean it wasnt productive.
You have to realize youre conversing with people that hate miles more than they love lsu and stats only matter when they point to lsu being bad at something. Its laughable that total offense and offensive yards per game were posted non stop after 2014 season and now they are meaningless stats.
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 8:43 am
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7228 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:42 am to
quote:

You have to realize youre conversing with people that hate miles more than they love lsu


True
Posted by 2geaux
Georgia
Member since Feb 2008
2732 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:50 am to
I talked to one of Jimbo's personal assistants in April and he pretty much said the same thing. Said Jimbo was packed and ready to geaux!
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:12 am to
quote:

I don't care about the Miles, Jimbo contract fiasco (the only thing I can call it), but I still want to know why Miles stuck with JJ in the NCG and didn't let Lee give it at least a one series shot. There's more to that story, we'll likely never hear.






Whooooooooooooo spooooky conspiracy stuff.

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:17 am to
quote:

don't care about the Miles, Jimbo contract fiasco (the only thing I can call it), but I still want to know why Miles stuck with JJ in the NCG and didn't let Lee give it at least a one series shot. There's more to that story, we'll likely never hear.


I can easily answer that for you.
Our oline was getting absolutely manhandled(giving up 5 sacks and 9 tfls) and JJ was running for his life. The answer to that problem IS NOT putting in a statue that had big problems handling pressure. You want a less mobile qb that doesnt handle pressure well and has a career 1td- 7int against bama?
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10840 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:21 am to
quote:

FSU is an easier job, and far easier to win 10 there than at LSU.


It's not easier when UF and Miami are on top and you have to compete for what is left of the in state recruits after the rest of the top tier teams in the nation poach some of our best athletes. They still have to play Clemson and Miami every year and UF is a tough annual OOC game.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:24 am to
quote:

's not easier when UF and Miami are on top


Yes it is. Its easier for the simple fact that they play in the acc. There are 3 programs in the acc worth a damn.
Fsu,miami,and Clemson and aside from last year Clemson is known for fricking up.

Miami has finished ranked in the top 25 ONCE SINCE 2005 and they finished 19th that year. Stop acting like this Miami program is good.
Since 2005 Miami has finished above .500 in conf just 5 times and thats in the worst p5 conf.
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 9:29 am
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10308 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:26 am to
Rick you have been arguing for a while now on the subject of Miles and the offensive production. I hear you concerning what if productive and all that. However, it has not been when stacked up against equal or better talent. Miles is a good man and I like him as a man and even as our Coach to an extent. He needs to change his approach to coaching offense. He said he would spend more time on the passing game at practice, we will see. They need to learn how to develop and recruit the right QB for the system. But what system is that? It doesn't seem like they have been able to put that together and stick to it over the last few years. They have wasted a lot of talent by not being able to develop a consistent passing threat.
Posted by topcat88
Member since Nov 2015
4514 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:30 am to
Lets see how Miles does this year and if he has his usual collapse we go get Herman.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:32 am to
quote:

However, it has not been when stacked up against equal or better talent.


Bama vs sec
417 ypg
Lsu vs sec
402 ypg

Both team played 2 teams that the other team didnt.
Bama played
1.lsu 23rd ranked defense
2.tenn 37th ranked defense
Lsu played
1. Bama 1st ranked defense
2. Florida 7th ranked defense


Lsu offense out produced ohio state and fsu. Are you really saying lsu played easier competition than those 2?

quote:

They need to learn how to develop and recruit the right QB for the system.


Agreed.


What ton of talent have they wasted?

We had good passing in 06,07,09,2011 and 2013.
2015 Brandon harris was on pace for a great 1st year and then suffered a sports hernia.
Before his injury he had 9 tds-0 ints and was 2nd in the sec in qb rating.


If yoy were to follow other programs as closely as you follow lsu you would realize that other programs also have deficiencies in their offense from year to year. Thats not just a lsu problem.
All across cfb there are programs that dont produce as well against the better defenses.
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 9:37 am
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19707 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:36 am to
quote:

I can easily answer that for you.
Our oline was getting absolutely manhandled(giving up 5 sacks and 9 tfls) and JJ was running for his life. The answer to that problem IS NOT putting in a statue that had big problems handling pressure. You want a less mobile qb that doesnt handle pressure well and has a career 1td- 7int against bama?


come on, Rick. Everyone knows that sometimes a change at QB can provide an emotional spark that gets things going. We see this all the time.

Clearly, our offense with JJ wasn't working that night. The crystal trophy is on the line. Last game of the year. We should've tried ANYTHING to try to get things going. Why not give Lee a try? He certainly couldn't have done worse.

Do I think Lee would've made a difference - probably not. But damn, we had to try SOMETHING. Instead, we stuck with JJ and got shut out.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19707 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Before his injury he had 9 tds-0 ints and was 2nd in the sec in qb rating.


come on Rick - again.

Early stats don't mean much because our early schedule was weak last year. The real schedule started with Bama.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:41 am to
quote:


Clearly, our offense with JJ wasn't working that night. The crystal trophy is on the line. Last game of the year. We should've tried ANYTHING to try to get things going. Why not give Lee a try? He certainly couldn't have done worse.

Do I think Lee would've made a difference - probably not. But damn, we had to try SOMETHING. Instead, we stuck with JJ and got shut out.


No im with you on trying whatever. I was just trying to explain why i think Miles didnt go with Lee. The game was just a 2 score game until the end and Miles didnt like how Lee responded under pressure and he didn't want a turnover.

Im with you on the ," you have to try something".
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13735 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:42 am to
quote:


Early stats don't mean much because our early schedule was weak last year. The real schedule started with Bama.


Florida was probably the second best defense they played all year.

You can't just throw out stats for a season because they don't fit your narrative. Harris needs to improve yes. Miles and Cam need to call better games yes but Harris wasn't as bad as people say he was.
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 9:45 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:44 am to
quote:

come on Rick - again.

Early stats don't mean much because our early schedule was weak last year. The real schedule started with Bama.


Of course they dont mean shite because they dont support your argument.
If Harris had been shite the 1st 2 months youd be in here trashing our qb play for the 1st 2 months. Youre using hindsight with this.
Yes bama was a big game but arky had lost to toledo and ole miss had lost to arky and memphis. They were only considered big once we lost.

Harris had played really well against UF. They were the best pass defense in the sec last year.
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 9:49 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:47 am to
quote:

Florida was probably the second best defense they played all year


And the best pass defense in the sec and lsu gained the 2nd most yards all year against them.
quote:

You can't just throw out stats for a season because they don't fit your narrative


Exactly. They are using hindsight to act like they knew arky and ole miss were bigger games than Miss st and auburn and florida
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