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re: Les Miles / Jimbo Fisher Story
Posted on 8/12/16 at 1:56 am to TheDeathValley
Posted on 8/12/16 at 1:56 am to TheDeathValley
Assuming your version is true, you've given plenty enough information in various posts such that both brothers can easily be identified. You've all but given their names.
The brother who works for the firm representing LSU could find himself in deep doo doo if he revealed confidential information to anyone. Nice job. However, if the lawyer was stupid enough to talk when he shouldn't have, he deserves what he gets. He should also be pretty upset with his brother.
The brother who works for the firm representing LSU could find himself in deep doo doo if he revealed confidential information to anyone. Nice job. However, if the lawyer was stupid enough to talk when he shouldn't have, he deserves what he gets. He should also be pretty upset with his brother.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 4:51 am to TheDeathValley
Hmm. I'm not sure this is true. It all certainly makes sense...well, all but one thing. Miles' contracted stated Miles would receive his money in equal monthly installments “over a period of time equal to twice the amount of time … remaining in the term” of the agreement. Since the deal, scheduled to run through Dec. 31, 2019, LSU would have been able to spread its payments to Miles over an eight-year period — and the contract says the offset provision related to Miles’ income from other employment would remain in force throughout that period. So I'm not sure that even if the buyout ended up being 15m, (which it was slated to be more in the 11m-12.9m range) I'm not sure that 1.875m a year would have prompted the Governor's office to block the deal citing the state's deficit. Now their could have been other reasons why they would have wanted to block the deal but I do not think that money was the deciding factor.
I personally think there were complications in getting Jimbo here that we simply didn't have enough time to workout. It was quickly turning into a media nightmare. If allowed to go on any longer and then end up going belly-up it could have been a serious blemish on the school. The ability to conduct themselves in a professional and timely manner when it comes to the hiring/firing of coaching staff is something that has to be taken into consideration...after all miles will not be here forever and a school that lacks that ability is not attractive to future head coaches/staff especially if we were to look to the NFL to replace Miles.
I really like Miles and I'm glad he got another year to bring in a few new coaches who ended up being major upgrades and hopefully get us back on track to compete for another national title.
I also think people forget that Miles is the ONLY reason that Austin Thomas came back from USC which is HUGE. He is the main reason for our recruiting success. The guy is a future NFL GM and is top notch when it comes to player evaluation, managing the recruiting events, maintaining our footholds in the southeast and the overall recruiting "database" as well as maintaining the current roster.
The longest I've ever ranted on the rant so far...great topic.
Gunna be a hell of a ride this year. GO TO HELL OLEMISS and
I personally think there were complications in getting Jimbo here that we simply didn't have enough time to workout. It was quickly turning into a media nightmare. If allowed to go on any longer and then end up going belly-up it could have been a serious blemish on the school. The ability to conduct themselves in a professional and timely manner when it comes to the hiring/firing of coaching staff is something that has to be taken into consideration...after all miles will not be here forever and a school that lacks that ability is not attractive to future head coaches/staff especially if we were to look to the NFL to replace Miles.
I really like Miles and I'm glad he got another year to bring in a few new coaches who ended up being major upgrades and hopefully get us back on track to compete for another national title.
I also think people forget that Miles is the ONLY reason that Austin Thomas came back from USC which is HUGE. He is the main reason for our recruiting success. The guy is a future NFL GM and is top notch when it comes to player evaluation, managing the recruiting events, maintaining our footholds in the southeast and the overall recruiting "database" as well as maintaining the current roster.
The longest I've ever ranted on the rant so far...great topic.
Gunna be a hell of a ride this year. GO TO HELL OLEMISS and
Posted on 8/12/16 at 4:58 am to ApexTiger
You were soo wrong in so many different ways...
Posted on 8/12/16 at 5:45 am to BigRaggedyTiger
Assuming Les keeps his job this year, and I think if we don't at least make it to Atlanta he should be fired, what happens next year when we lose 13-15 starters and go 9-3 again? or 8-5? it's gonna happen.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:51 pm to BigRaggedyTiger
quote:miles should have resigned. he lost most of the boosters. he lost the ad. he lost most of the fans. the team had quit either during or after the bama game. i wanted him to leave while he still had a good legacy with lsu. it's more likely he will go down than up. the sec is just too tough to maintain the kind of success he has.
I really like Miles and I'm glad he got another year to bring in a few new coaches who ended up being major upgrades and hopefully get us back on track to compete for another national title.
quote:he's also incredibly stubborn. i have been a STAUNCH miles defender but, last season was it for me. the likelihood that he's going to progress offensively is very, very low. there is no reason to expect the offense to significantly improve this season. it would be highly uncharacteristic of miles to make major changes and he said as much RIGHT AFTER ESSENTIALLY BEING FIRED post a&m.
He is the main reason for our recruiting success. The guy is a future NFL GM and is top notch when it comes to player evaluation, managing the recruiting events, maintaining our footholds in the southeast and the overall recruiting "database" as well as maintaining the current roster.
great, great guy. as a coach, he's lost touch with college offense.
Posted on 8/13/16 at 12:37 am to Big EZ Tiger
quote:
Nick Saban says hello. He left the NFL just to come back to the SEC
He left the NFL because he failed in the NFL not because the SEC was so great. Also, Urban Meyer didn't have real health issues, that was his out from Florida waiting on his dream job at OSU.
Your assumption that the SEC is the pinnacle and everyone is trying to get here is what I was responding to. Some coaches have left the SEC and others have come here. This is NOT where every coach wants to come.
For some the Pac-12 is the Pinnacle, etc. I'm not saying the SEC isn't a great conference to coach in but to assume it is the one everybody wants to coach in is another story.
Posted on 8/13/16 at 12:48 am to TheDeathValley
quote:
Jimbo had accepted the job
Jimbo was never leaving Florida State where he won a NC and a fricking ton of games to come to the SEC and face each season three recent NC teams each damn year.
quote:
Governor's office contacted F. King
Right! The brand new governor is going to tell the school bringing a 100,000 fans to the stadium each game and millions and millions to the state they can't release a football coach.
The shite some come up with makes me
Posted on 8/13/16 at 1:35 am to LSU Groupee
Shows how little you know
Posted on 8/13/16 at 1:45 am to LSU Groupee
quote:
Jimbo was never leaving Florida State where he won a NC and a fricking ton of games to come to the SEC and face each season three recent NC teams each damn year.
It's plausible. Jimbo was in the middle of fighting with the administration over fund allocation and assistant salaries and pay raises.
quote:
Right! The brand new governor is going to tell the school bringing a 100,000 fans to the stadium each game and millions and millions to the state they can't release a football coach.
One, Jindal was still our governor. And two, here's the shite sandwich F. King forced down our throats:
"After the type of budget battle we went through this past spring we certainly do not need to be throwing tens of millions of dollars around under certain circumstances,” he says. “We don’t need to go into the next legislative session with a black eye that we’re throwing tens of millions of dollars around on issues that aren’t associated with academic progress.”
Posted on 8/13/16 at 9:05 am to LSU Groupee
quote:you're wrong. he's called people twice about following him to b.r. if i know about it, it's not really a secret.
Jimbo was never leaving Florida State where he won a NC and a fricking ton of games to come to the SEC and face each season three recent NC teams each damn year.
Posted on 8/13/16 at 9:10 am to bfniii
quote:
ou're wrong. he's called people twice about following him to b.r. if i know about it, it's not really a secret.
Exactly, I don't know why people think it's far fetched that
1. Miles was going to be fired
2. That Jimbo would love to have the job
Yeah FSU is a great job, but LSU is a special place in the best conference and best division in CFB.
I am hoping Miles does super great this year...part of me believes he wants to win another MNC and then retire...
If that happens, I expect Jimbo to be our next coach...
or the Houston Coach
Believe me, conversations have been had " Jimbo, the timing wasn't right, we'll revisit this in the future"
Posted on 8/13/16 at 9:14 am to TheDeathValley
Interesting story.....but why would Joe tell Les he was fired before the game. It seems they would wait until after the game. This part makes me suspicious about the validity of the story.
Posted on 8/13/16 at 3:01 pm to Honest Tune
outoftune ! Thanks for the chuckle you must be one of the board's sabin entourtage !
Posted on 8/13/16 at 3:14 pm to LSU82BILL
Then why even post it. You were trying to argue that FSU wasnt an easier job when Miami was winning. Miami isnt winning and even if Miami was winning,FSU isnt a tougher job than lsu. Miami,Clemson,and FSU are the only programs in that conf to have sustained success in the modern era of cfb.
Bama, lsu, and auburn have had more success than the entire acc conference combined.
Learn college football.
Bama, lsu, and auburn have had more success than the entire acc conference combined.
Learn college football.
This post was edited on 8/13/16 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 8/13/16 at 3:17 pm to bfniii
quote:
miles should have resigned. he lost most of the boosters. he lost the ad. he lost most of the fans
You have no idea what youre talking about if you think most fans want miles gone. You let the loud minority on here cloud your judgement.
We finished 16th out of 126 teams, basically won 10 games with a bunch if true sophomores.
While 2015 wasnt elite it damn sure wasnt a season where he lost most of the fans.
Posted on 8/13/16 at 3:29 pm to TheDeathValley
Let's see, $15 million dollars is raised secretly without anyone or the press knowing about it! I call BS
Posted on 8/13/16 at 4:06 pm to MightyYat
quote:
It's plausible
No, it isn't. Jimbo has a 5 million buyout. LSU owes Les 15 million. Jimbo is earning 5 million a year. Jimbo is going no where without a 6-7 million a year contract. LSU is losing state money in every budget. LSU has a winning, well liked football coach who has had more success than any coach before him. Jimbo has a lot of negative baggage off the football field that follows him.
No matter what some spoiled, entitled LSU fans wanted, once you take the anti-Les glasses off, Jimbo was never coming to LSU.
Posted on 8/13/16 at 6:05 pm to LSU Groupee
quote:i don't know any other ways to tell you you're wrong. i know people who are friends with the former assistants jimbo was calling. again, if i know about it, it's not really a secret. it's totally dumb to keep acting like the scenario is just outlandish. what you're saying didn't happen actually happened twice.
Jimbo was never coming to LSU
Posted on 8/13/16 at 6:07 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:we'll have to agree to disagree. regardless, my overall point is that there was very little reason for les to stay and good ones to leave.
While 2015 wasnt elite it damn sure wasnt a season where he lost most of the fans
Posted on 8/13/16 at 6:11 pm to cmacatl13
I don't know about you, but I would suggest maybe letting our most successful coach in program history, with a NC, build for yet another NC run. 
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