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re: Lee/Jefferson combo is better than the singular of either
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:43 pm to CharlesLSU
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:43 pm to CharlesLSU
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I believe they had 18+ yards for the first 2 times it was used on Saturday when the inside was getting stuffed......
And then the drive stalled.
I'm glad JJ is back. I think he will be needed. But my opinion, as of now, knowing what we know, is that he does not need to be forced into the offense.
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Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:43 pm to ForeLSU
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no, but I could have worded better. My point is having Jefferson back is a good thing, but I don't think the offense would be greatly improved by replacing Lee with Jefferson as the starter.
just giving you a hard time. he's good as a change of pace/situational player.......or if JL goes down/has mental breakdown.
JL is the rightful starter at the moment IMHO, but Les sees everything minute to minute and makes the big bucks.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:44 pm to MandevilleLSUTiger
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knowing what we know, is that he does not need to be forced into the offense.
I would agree. His primary benefit is his availability right now.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:45 pm to ForeLSU
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and this year's offense is not gaining as much yardage as last years as a percentage of available yards (cumulative distance to goal line from possession starting point).
LMMFAO....
Listen...I suspect I know what is REALLY up here and what this qb controversy is REALLY about. There is no other logical explanation or logic at all in your posts. This offense is scoring 2 td's more a game than last year...despite having worse field position. This offense is 95% in the red zone, compared to JJ's dismal performance last year. This offense, through the first five games compared to last year, is far better on three and outs than jj....This offense is averaging over 150 yards a game passing through 5 years..compared to less than a 100 last year.......Quite simply, this offense is clicking on the same level as 2007....try being colorblind and look at the real stats....if you truly want what is best with LSU...or if you are like JJ the "I" factor......which is what i suspect you are.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:45 pm to ForeLSU
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Look dude, I'm not claiming that Lee is all-world at all, but you're nuts if you think Jefferson would be an upgrade to this offense. I'm glad he's back, I think he can out an outside running threat to the offense, which will help.
JJ will help the offense when he is bought in for certain situations.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:46 pm to CharlesLSU
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JL is the rightful starter at the moment IMHO, but Les sees everything minute to minute and makes the big bucks.
which is why he took out jj on third and long last year in the bama game...and why he took him out on third and 6 in the kentucky game....what does that tell you?
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:47 pm to CantonTiger128
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Listen...I suspect I know what is REALLY up here and what this qb controversy is REALLY about. There is no other logical explanation or logic at all in your posts. This offense is scoring 2 td's more a game than last year...despite having worse field position. This offense is 95% in the red zone, compared to JJ's dismal performance last year. This offense, through the first five games compared to last year, is far better on three and outs than jj....This offense is averaging over 150 yards a game passing through 5 years..compared to less than a 100 last year.......Quite simply, this offense is clicking on the same level as 2007....try being colorblind and look at the real stats....if you truly want what is best with LSU...or if you are like JJ the "I" factor......which is what i suspect you are.
....and, why did we fail to note the improved oline unit as being partly responsible?
don't pick and choose your barbs.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:49 pm to TIsuGGER
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And here I thought you got the most credit for scoring more than your opponent
I don't disagree that scoring offense is more important than passing/total offense.
Thing is, I felt that way in 2010 as well when there was thread after thread here wanting to talk nothing but the NR'ing of our total offense/passing offense.
I don't see those whining and crying over our passing/total offense ranking last season saying much about bout a #107 passing attack this season.
Hey, I'm riding the LSU is #1 wave...just find the sudden loss of interest by some in the ranking of our passing offense a tad interesting/telling.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:49 pm to CantonTiger128
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which is why he took out jj on third and long last year in the bama game...and why he took him out on third and 6 in the kentucky game....what does that tell you?
...it tells me the game was in hand (UK) and Les wanted to gauge how rusty the JJ situation would be.
Game prep, my boy. Game prep.
last year Bama versus 2011 UK is apples to oranges......the conditions are the key. besides, Les has a method for doing what he does that differs from a dayjobber (thats you).
This post was edited on 10/5/11 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:49 pm to 13SaintTiger
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No, you are ignorant because I won't disagree if I'm proven wrong. I am not talking about LSU's play as a team, I am talking about lee's qb play and how he'll play vs SEC defenses and that having JJ is a good thing. As far as team play, I feel we'll go undefeated.
first rule of thumb...never argue with a fool. have a nice day.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:51 pm to CptBengal
This I am 100% positive you are right on the majority of these posters. It makes no other sense otherwise. The difference in play and the difference in numbers from this year to last through the first five games is staggering. It would take a fool or a family member to argue otherwise...or both.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:52 pm to CantonTiger128
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which is why he took out jj on third and long last year in the bama game
he was hurt
This post was edited on 10/5/11 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:52 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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just find the sudden loss of interest by some in the ranking of our passing offense a tad interesting/telling.
May have something to do with winning close, and winning big. We've won big more this year, to date, than we did last year. Those stats become less interesting for that reason. But fans start to dissect everything when you are squeaking out Ws, looking for the areas in which to improve.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:53 pm to ForeLSU
To my eyes both QB's have already proven they can beat the best that CFB has to offer. JJ was the winning QB in last years Bama game and so has proven he has what it takes to go toe to toe with them and win. He was did very well against TAMU in the Cotton bowl and Ga tech in 2008. JL has beaten Aub and Fla in relief roles and won some big games as the starter this year.
BOTH guys however, have laid some pretty big eggs at inopportune times. It's clear that neither have NFL talent and that neither is good enough to separate themselves from the other in the coaches eyes....and the COACHES eyes are the only ones that matter. I think either is good enough to beat Bama if they play their best, we will just have to trust that our coaches will be able to manage the situation to get the best out of them.
No matter what argument any poster uses to make his point, statistics, past performance, perceived talent differences....at the end of the day the coaching staff has way more information and know how than anyone else. I hate to nominate myself as the LOGIC police in this post, but all the ranting in the world isn't going to change the outcome. Don't stop posting though, it does entertain me to sit and read all the humanoids ranting away like they actually have more answers than the coach...it hepls me feel like a superior human being!
BOTH guys however, have laid some pretty big eggs at inopportune times. It's clear that neither have NFL talent and that neither is good enough to separate themselves from the other in the coaches eyes....and the COACHES eyes are the only ones that matter. I think either is good enough to beat Bama if they play their best, we will just have to trust that our coaches will be able to manage the situation to get the best out of them.
No matter what argument any poster uses to make his point, statistics, past performance, perceived talent differences....at the end of the day the coaching staff has way more information and know how than anyone else. I hate to nominate myself as the LOGIC police in this post, but all the ranting in the world isn't going to change the outcome. Don't stop posting though, it does entertain me to sit and read all the humanoids ranting away like they actually have more answers than the coach...it hepls me feel like a superior human being!
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:53 pm to CharlesLSU
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homey, you're
not your "homey" jefferson.....just a guy that can analyze the difference between last year's stats and this year's stats...and it ain't even close...especially in the bottom line stat, 14 ppg more this year.......
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:54 pm to CantonTiger128
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first rule of thumb...never argue with a fool. have a nice day.
....better to be thought a fool than to type and remove all doubt. keep on typing smart guy.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:54 pm to CharlesLSU
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play calling and game planning has something to do with that.......keep going.
LMAO....i suppose...when you are 3/14 for 30 yards....yeah, that is playcalling...lmao
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:54 pm to ForeLSU
quote:We didn't have an FCS foe in 1st 5 games, much less comprising 1/5th the schedule. WVU is only decent ranked D.
LSU hasn't faced a really good D for any 2011 stat bragging right, either.
quote:A bit more PA being featured this year also, imo.
This offense is performing much better primarily due to a reduction in penalties and turnovers, and a much better TD/FG ratio.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:56 pm to CantonTiger128
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just a guy that can analyze the difference between last year's stats and this year's stats
conditions define stats, you have conveniently cited but ONE condition to frame up your soapbox.
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not your "homey" jefferson
uh no you're not. I actually know football, not just stats.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:56 pm to musick
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JJ is now essentially RP 2.0
Obviously you were still in Jr Hi when RP was on the team
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Ryan Perrilloux -- Rushing
MS 3-12
VT 4-21
MT 8-37
SC 8-59
TU 2-14
FL 6-23
KY 5-15
AU 4-11
AL DNP
LT 2-(-3)
UM DNP
AR DNP
TN 9-14
OK 1-4
2 rushing TDs on the year (games in bold were when Flynn was hurt)
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Ryan Perrilloux -- Passing
Mississippi State 3/2 21
Virginia Tech 5/5 84
Middle Tennessee 25/20 298
South Carolina 1/0 0
Tulane Green Wave 3/1 -1
Florida 1/0 0
Kentucky 2/1 12
Auburn 1/0 0
Louisiana Tech 4/2 37
Tennessee 30/20 243
So as you can see there was no 2 QB system. RP played a true back-up. Filled in when the #1 was hurt, and mop-up. Take away his two starts and his stats are:
2.9 carries; 13 yards per game
1.7 passes; 12.8 yards per game
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