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re: Lee/Jefferson combo is better than the singular of either
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:25 pm to Mayhawman
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:25 pm to Mayhawman
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LSU hasn't faced a really good D for any 2011 stat bragging right, either.
it's comparable to last year through this point of the season. This offense is performing much better primarily due to a reduction in penalties and turnovers, and a much better TD/FG ratio.
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Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:28 pm to ForeLSU
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went 21-27 for 213 yards...red zone playcalling was the main reason for the FG's instead of TD's. They fixed that for the WVU game.
I'll give them a bit of a pass on Kentucky, wedge game between WVU and Florida, plus 11:20 starts have never been great for LSU offenses
I see you left out the 1 int and td. Pretty average against a not so good SEC team, just like against UK. When we start playing UF, UT, Auburn, UA, that's when things are gonna hit the fan.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:28 pm to tirebiter
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+1 billion. It is not an explosive offense, the turnovers forced and field position gained, defensive scores, the D limiting the other teams' scoring, the kick return score, the net punting yardage, etc. Could the offense be put in a much better situation? Look at the receiving yardage per player, they haven't even hit stride yet. If this team doesn't keep games tight or play with a lead then there is no proof STD that it can overcome a significant deficit. Lee is not going to hit a switch and all of a sudden put up 275 yards passing on UF, Bama, etc and the receivers need to step up their attempts on gaining separation from defenders and convert catchable passes into receptions -- Lee, JJ, whoever is the QB
luckily you are not a grad student in a mba program. Your theory would fail miserably. for one, the starting field position is worst than last years, so that is a lame argument. secondly, WHEN lsu has a chance to score, they do, as they are at the top of the nation in red zone scoring.....third, I seem to recall a certain #7 last year with a couple of early punt returns for TD, and an int return for a couple, and still that offense scored less than this one by a whole 14 ppg. Finally, Lee sure knew how to flip the switch last year when called upon to bail JJ out of close games with Tenn, Fl, and Alabama........
your points are garbage.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:29 pm to CantonTiger128
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correct me if i am wrong...but didn't pp7 have a great start to last year with a couple td returns and int returns??? lol...just curious.
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the offense is actually starting in worst field position that last year...so wrong again.
I'm not comparing anything to last year, just stating that this offense will succeed through efficiency and limiting mistakes...it's not, at least at this point, a high powered offense. I'm hopeful though that we'll see more of one next year.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:31 pm to 13SaintTiger
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When we start playing UF, UT, Auburn, UA, that's when things are gonna hit the fan.
and next week you will be saying when we start playing UT, Auburn, UA that'w when....etc...then the following week it will be Au and UA....etc....
you can be a negatiger all you want....you make yourself look stupid...then disappear when you get proven wrong yet again......I guess you do realize how ignorant you look making these statements when lsu is scoring 38 points a game this year......kind of funny when negatigers have to look at the future to make a point....
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:35 pm to CantonTiger128
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and next week you will be saying when we start playing UT, Auburn, UA that'w when....etc...then the following week it will be Au and UA....etc....
you can be a negatiger all you want....you make yourself look stupid...then disappear when you get proven wrong yet again......I guess you do realize how ignorant you look making these statements when lsu is scoring 38 points a game this year......kind of funny when negatigers have to look at the future to make a point....
No, you are ignorant because I won't disagree if I'm proven wrong. I am not talking about LSU's play as a team, I am talking about lee's qb play and how he'll play vs SEC defenses and that having JJ is a good thing. As far as team play, I feel we'll go undefeated.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:35 pm to 13SaintTiger
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I see you left out the 1 int and td. Pretty average against a not so good SEC team, just like against UK. When we start playing UF, UT, Auburn, UA, that's when things are gonna hit the fan.
Look dude, I'm not claiming that Lee is all-world at all, but you're nuts if you think Jefferson would be an upgrade to this offense. I'm glad he's back, I think he can out an outside running threat to the offense, which will help.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:35 pm to CantonTiger128
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and next week you will be saying when we start playing UT, Auburn, UA that'w when....etc...then the following week it will be Au and UA....etc....
you can be a negatiger all you want....you make yourself look stupid...then disappear when you get proven wrong yet again......I guess you do realize how ignorant you look making these statements when lsu is scoring 38 points a game this year......kind of funny when negatigers have to look at the future to make a point....
No, you are ignorant because I won't disappear if I'm proven wrong. I am not talking about LSU's play as a team, I am talking about lee's qb play and how he'll play vs SEC defenses and that having JJ is a good thing. As far as team play, I feel we'll go undefeated.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:35 pm to CantonTiger128
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and next week you will be saying when we start playing UT, Auburn, UA that'w when....etc...then the following week it will be Au and UA....etc....
you can be a negatiger all you want....
They are not negative about the Tigers.
They are pro-JJ. All they care about is JJ starting, it's his family/friends. If he was starting, they would be rah-rah-rah.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:36 pm to CantonTiger128
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you can be a negatiger all you want....you make yourself look stupid...then disappear when you get proven wrong yet again......I guess you do realize how ignorant you look making these statements when lsu is scoring 38 points a game this year......kind of funny when negatigers have to look at the future to make a point....
homey, you're basis for discrediting what YOU think Les will do makes you look foolish.
you are not a coach and your statements validate a lack of any aptitude to be one.
but, by all means, keep showing all of these good folks how smart you are
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:36 pm to 13SaintTiger
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I would gladly wish for a running qb who I know has potential to make great throws.
where have those great throws been the last two years? How could a guy with that much potential go 7 games in a row without 100 yards passing. BTW...only way you beat bama is passing......same as lsu.......but of course, you know that aunt jefferson.Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:37 pm to CantonTiger128
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How could a guy with that much potential go 7 games in a row without 100 yards passing.
play calling and game planning has something to do with that.......keep going.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:37 pm to 13SaintTiger
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When we start playing UF, UT, Auburn, UA, that's when things are gonna hit the fan.
Well since there is a lot of info floating around this thread based on past performances, Lee tossed a TD or 2 against UF last season. No reason to believe he can't do it again.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:37 pm to CantonTiger128
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for one, the starting field position is worst than last years, so that is a lame argument
and this year's offense is not gaining as much yardage as last years as a percentage of available yards (cumulative distance to goal line from possession starting point).
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:39 pm to ForeLSU
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Look dude, I'm not claiming that Lee is all-world at all, but you're nuts if you think Jefferson would be an upgrade to this offense. I'm glad he's back, I think he can out an outside running threat to the offense, which will help.
.....ok, I'm confused. I think you are too.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:39 pm to dustytiger123
I might be wrong, but it seems that when JJ was out, LSU was forced to run the offense THE RIGHT WAY - pass and run, not option and throw.
LSU had to commit to the run and pass.
This option "stuff" doesn't work. IMO, LSU has no true option QBs.
I'm not bashing JJ. I thought the crowd booing Saturday was totally uncalled for.
When LSU has a true passer (and if he can scramble that would be awesome) that MAKES GOOD DECISIONS, the offense is much better.
LSU had to commit to the run and pass.
This option "stuff" doesn't work. IMO, LSU has no true option QBs.
I'm not bashing JJ. I thought the crowd booing Saturday was totally uncalled for.
When LSU has a true passer (and if he can scramble that would be awesome) that MAKES GOOD DECISIONS, the offense is much better.
This post was edited on 10/5/11 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:40 pm to 13SaintTiger
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How did Lee do vs MSU and UK? I would just like to point out that it is a different ball game against SEC defenses
aunt jefferson....do you remember last year when JL came in against SEC defenses and bailed out your nephew? do you remember how pitiful your nephew was against sec and non-sec defenses alike? do you remember the 7 consecutive games of less than 100 yards passing?
Ms. Jefferson, we know where you stand on this, but really, you need to lay off the sauce.....he aint' going pro ms jefferson...i'm sorry.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:41 pm to cyogi
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This option "stuff" doesn't work.
I believe they had 18+ yards for the first 2 times it was used on Saturday when the inside was getting stuffed......
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:41 pm to CharlesLSU
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.....ok, I'm confused. I think you are too.
no, but I could have worded better. My point is having Jefferson back is a good thing, but I don't think the offense would be greatly improved by replacing Lee with Jefferson as the starter.
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:42 pm to CantonTiger128
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aunt jefferson....do you remember last year when JL came in against SEC defenses and bailed out your nephew? do you remember how pitiful your nephew was against sec and non-sec defenses alike? do you remember the 7 consecutive games of less than 100 yards passing?
Ms. Jefferson, we know where you stand on this, but really, you need to lay off the sauce.....he aint' going pro ms jefferson...i'm sorry.
looked pretty good against Bama and aTm......
btw, you read like a complete frick.
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