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re: Lack of Hitting Adjustments

Posted on 6/9/12 at 11:28 pm to
Posted by okietiger
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Posted on 6/9/12 at 11:28 pm to
If we have a hitting coach that doesn't understand the importance of trying to hit the baseball to right center (left center for lefty batter) then we really do have a serious problem. Pull up any article from the best pro hitters and they are all chalked full of quotes on hitting ball to center-right side of field.

Yikes.
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Posted on 6/9/12 at 11:30 pm to
actually thinking back on the large amount of double plays recently, it seems like we don't hit behind the runner very much ... if that is the case .. not hitting the ball the other way is like the qb spiking the ball with no time on the clock
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 6/9/12 at 11:32 pm to
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Pull up the video. He said "and if you are beat by the pitch it will still travel to right field".

Yes he did. In the context of working on a low tee drill with a pitch over the middle of the plate and the focus on driving the ball back through the middle.

Obviously you have to let the ball travel if you are intentionally trying to go to the opposite field, everyone knows that. But if your focus on a particular pitch or drill is to drive the ball through the middle and you don't do it, then yes...you were either earlier or later than what you were attempting to be.

Posted by TigerLunatik
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Posted on 6/9/12 at 11:33 pm to
word
Posted by okietiger
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Posted on 6/9/12 at 11:34 pm to
Yeah we're definitely rolling over the ball like crazy which is tell-tale sign of not waiting back on ball.
Posted by okietiger
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Posted on 6/9/12 at 11:35 pm to
Well damn that changes everything
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
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Posted on 6/9/12 at 11:35 pm to
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I may have a heart attack though if I every see any of our hitters choke up on the bat shorten his swing and punch a slider away to the opposite field on a 1-2 count.


hey I am no fan of that shite either, but thats the pansy arse game that the NCAA powers that be have created with these god awful bats. But I rather win doing that than lose.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 6/9/12 at 11:35 pm to
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Pull up the video. He said "and if you are beat by the pitch it will still travel to right field".

I have heard many good hitting coaches in my life, and they all teach you to let the ball get deep so that you can A) wait on the off speed or B) hit the fastball to the opposite field.

LSU's hitting coordinator thinks that hitting a fastball to right field is getting beat by the pitch. Don't believe me? How many of LSU 's hitters do you think handle off speed very well? I would count Rhymes and Nola and nobody else. The rest are just hacking and trying to pull every fastball thrown near the strikezone.



I haven't seen the video but if your description is accurate you seem to be totally misrepresenting what Sanchez said.

It sounds like what he was saying was that a level swing will allow you to hit the ball EVEN if you get beaten by the pitch. In other words, his teaching point is about a level swing...not about a philosophy of hitting the ball to right only when you get beat on a pitch. It is a ridiculous conclusion to be honest.

Like I said, I haven't seen the video but it seems like you are searching for something to criticize.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/9/12 at 11:39 pm to
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punch a slider away to the opposite field on a 1-2 count.


bad choice of pitch count here i think .. if you have 2 strikes and the slider comes on that outside corner ... you damn well better poke that bugger the other way and get on base ..
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 6/9/12 at 11:49 pm to
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It sounds like what he was saying was that a level swing will allow you to hit the ball EVEN if you get beaten by the pitch. In other words, his teaching point is about a level swing...not about a philosophy of hitting the ball to right only when you get beat on a pitch. It is a ridiculous conclusion to be honest.

Thats exactly what he was talking about. He mentions getting the barrel in the zone for as long as possible....focusing on a pitch over the middle and low....so if you are a little late you hit to right field, if you're on it then it's back through the middle, and if you're a little in front it's hit to the left side.

He then said thats why the infielders are positioned the way they are because hitting back through the middle is the hardest thing to do. If you're early there are two fielders to the left, if you're beat there are two fielders to the right.

And that turned into :omg: Javi thinks it's bad to hit to the opposite field because it means you are beat.
This post was edited on 6/9/12 at 11:50 pm
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 6/9/12 at 11:49 pm to
First of all, nobody gets beat by a ball on a tee, so the earlier response is wrong.

Yes Money, a flat swing , like raph, will allow you to hit the ball well to all fields. But LSU's hitting coach actually used the term "getting beat by the pitch" when commenting on hitting a ball to right field. It was very alarming, to hear a coach of a team that is awful at hitting off speed and outside fastballs to make that statement. It showed me that these guys are getting taught to never let a fastball jam you, which in turn shows why we can't hit off speed.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
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Posted on 6/9/12 at 11:49 pm to
First of all, nobody gets beat by a ball on a tee, so the earlier response is wrong.

Yes Money, a flat swing , like raph, will allow you to hit the ball well to all fields. But LSU's hitting coach actually used the term "getting beat by the pitch" when commenting on hitting a ball to right field. It was very alarming, to hear a coach of a team that is awful at hitting off speed and outside fastballs to make that statement. It showed me that these guys are getting taught to never let a fastball jam you, which in turn shows why we can't hit off speed.
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 6/9/12 at 11:54 pm to
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First of all, nobody gets beat by a ball on a tee

No shite. But if you aren't intentionally letting the ball travel, and they weren't discussing doing it intentionally since they were working on hitting it through the middle, then it means you were later than intended.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 6/9/12 at 11:54 pm to
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MOT


Your recollection of what Javi said sounds pretty accurate. And my point stands, why does Javi think that hitting the ball to the opposite field mean that the batter was beat? It was not a slip of the tongue. It showed me the mentality of LSU's hitting coach is to "never get beat by a fastball". That philosophy leads to dead pull hitters who can't hit off speed.

Once again, other than Rhymes and Nola can you name any LSU hitter that handles off speed well?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
109076 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 11:55 pm to
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since they were working on hitting it through the middle,


yay yay
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
31129 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:03 am to
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And my point stands, why does Javi think that hitting the ball to the opposite field mean that the batter was beat?

Because in the context in which he was discussing it, hitting the ball through the middle on a pitch low and down the middle, it does mean the batter was beat in that the ball got deeper than intended.

Why no outrage when he said hitting it to the left side means they were out in front? Are there not pitch locations that require you to be in front?
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 9:12 pm to
bumped for the Javi haters
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