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Posted on 9/27/23 at 1:25 pm to Riolobo
Records like that tend to normalize. We have to play a good game.
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:05 pm to Riolobo
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He has definitely had trouble against better teams. Locking in Tigers -2.5.
I have a slightly different interpretation of that stat. I think what it means is …. If your team loses to Ole miss, then your team sucks so bad they are unranked.
I bet REALLY bad teams have an even worse record against tesms that finish ranked.
Maybe Vandy is 0-23? What’s UConn’s record look like?
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:22 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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What are other Ole Miss coaches records vs teams finishing top 25?
Huge Freeze
2014
Won: #3 BAMA, #14 TAMU, #4 Miss St.
Lost: #24 LSU, #4 Auburn, #6 TCU
2015
Won: #2 BAMA, #15 TAMU, #17 LSU, #23 Miss St, #13 Okla St,
Lost: #23 UF
Posted on 9/27/23 at 3:23 pm to Riolobo
Ole Miss will put up a banner if he wins Saturday against us.
This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 9/27/23 at 4:10 pm to tzimme4
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The home team has also won 9 of the past 11 games.
That's kind of misleading
For Perspective-
2011-2022 (the last 6 road trips for LSU)
LSU is 3-3
2011 52-3
2017 40-24
2019 58-37
Ole Miss is 1-5
2021 31-17
Not sure about the point spreads, but these games were all blowouts.
Over the last 20 years
LSU is 6-4 @ Ole Miss
OM is 1-9 @ LSU
Posted on 9/27/23 at 4:12 pm to cyarrr
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That's kind of misleading
It's not misleading at all. It's a fact, 2017 and 2019 were the only two times in the past 11 years the home team has lost.
This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 9/27/23 at 5:58 pm to tzimme4
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It's not misleading at all.
Absolutely is-
It’s all about how you frame it. You selected 11 years, kind of odd, I went back 12.
Ole Miss has just a single win at LSU during both time periods. (Edit, they are winless)
LSU however, has won at Ole Miss 50% of the time since 2011and 40% of the time since 2012 and since 2013.
Just adding context. The overall win total (including Ole Miss’ lack of success) skews the results as it relates to what LSU has accomplished.
You could also say, and be factually correct, that Ole Miss has beaten LSU at home only once since 2017.
See what I did there?
This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 9/27/23 at 6:43 pm to cyarrr
quote:Lol, it absolutely is misleading. The only reason the "home team" isn't 11-0 is because Ole Miss has barely won half of its home games over the past 12 years.
Absolutely is-
By comparison, the "home team" is 5-0 in the LSU-Kentucky series over the past 17 years, if you want to understand how misleading this stat is.
Here's another stat: in those 11 games, the "home team" has outscored the visitor by a total of 1 point in Oxford, and 85 points in Baton Rouge.
Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:02 pm to cyarrr
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You selected 11 years,
2012 to 2022 is 11 seasons. That's a pretty solid time frame unlike Kiffins tenure at Ole Miss.
Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:03 pm to KLSU
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Huge Freeze
So one OM coach?
Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:04 pm to TDlurker
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Ole Miss has barely won half of its home games over the past 12 years
That's literally all Ole Miss has to do on Saturday. It's the reason why LSU is -2.5 and moving to -1.5
Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:36 pm to tzimme4
quote:No, Ole Miss doesn’t have to win half the game, they need to win the whole game Saturday. Which is as relevant as pretending that LSU winning a game in Oxford is something difficult for LSU to do. It happens a lot.
That's literally all Ole Miss has to do on Saturday
Posted on 9/27/23 at 9:24 pm to TDlurker
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Ole Miss doesn’t have to win half the game, they need to win the whole game Saturday.
Nobody said anything about winning half a game. JFC, do you even read the thread before posting?
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Which is as relevant as pretending that LSU winning a game in Oxford is something difficult for LSU to do.
LSU has lost the last 3/5 games in Oxford. Sounds pretty easy.
This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 9/27/23 at 9:56 pm to Riolobo
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Kiffin is 4-23 vs teams FINISHING in top 25
What’s CBK’s record?
Posted on 9/27/23 at 10:03 pm to tzimme4
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LSU has lost the last 3/5 games in Oxford. Sounds pretty easy
And ?
LSU has won two of the last three in Oxford. In both wins, the rebels were taken to the woodshed.
If LSU wins this weekend, they will have won 3 of the last 6 (50%) going back 11 years and 4 of the last 7 (57%) going back 12 years.
It doesn’t seem the home team winning is as common place as you suggest, at least not for ole miss that is.
That said, none of what you and I are asserting matters. Both programs are not the same as they were 3, 5, 11 or 12 years ago.
This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 9/27/23 at 10:09 pm to TigerProphet
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What’s CBK’s record?
33-31.
I’m not sure if that is ranked teams at the time they played or how they finished.
LINK
Posted on 9/27/23 at 10:09 pm to tzimme4
quote:You did, and it makes no sense, just like your stupid, meaningless, cherrypicked stat. LSU *LITERALLY* has a winning record in Oxford, AND simultaneously has lost more games to Ole Miss in Baton Rouge than they have in the entire state of Mississippi, which by your logic, suggests LSU is more likely to lose in BR than in Oxford. But that is complete horseshite, just like your stupid meaningless cherrypicked stat.
Nobody said anything about winning half a game.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 6:37 am to cyarrr
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LSU has won two of the last three in Oxford. In both wins, the rebels were taken to the woodshed.
Neither of those two teams were coached by Kiffin and LSU had the best offense in CFB history in one of those.
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one of what you and I are asserting matters. Both programs are not the same as they were 3, 5, 11 or 12 years ago.
Just like LSU-Arkansas has been won by 3 points the past four seasons. None of that matters, but it continues to happen.
This post was edited on 9/28/23 at 6:41 am
Posted on 9/28/23 at 8:11 am to Forever
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Everyone is scared of him and acts like he’s a top 5
I don't think hes a top 5 Coach in the country but there aren't that many good Coaches right now in the SEC so calling him top 5 isn't really a compliment. But he is a good offensive Coach so it is okay to fear what his offense is going to do to our defense but that doesn't mean we can't still win the game.
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