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Posted on 5/27/10 at 11:41 am to josh336
quote:
Ott reportedly figured out what was wrong with him. If true, why did it take so long to find?
Because he has to figure out what is wrong on his own
Posted on 5/27/10 at 11:44 am to Lester Earl
Like I said I dont think the pitching is due to bad coaching.. I just dont think we have someone that can fix our pitcher's mechanics when something does break down.
Kinda like when Dinardo had Wade Richey as a kicker and had severe problems with his accuracy. LSU didnt have a single person on the coaching staff that knew how to coach him. A friend of mine that was a kicker on the team said they practiced on their own.
Kinda like when Dinardo had Wade Richey as a kicker and had severe problems with his accuracy. LSU didnt have a single person on the coaching staff that knew how to coach him. A friend of mine that was a kicker on the team said they practiced on their own.
Posted on 5/27/10 at 11:52 am to eelsuee
all the "pitching coaches" under Skip were the pitcher's babysitter... Skip coached the pitchers as well as calling the pitches. Can anyone ever remember anyone other than Skip making a visit to the mound?
If Ranaudo's been healthy (velocity is where it should be) and his problems have been that everything's up control-wise, shouldn't someone be able to diagnose a mechanical problem and instruct him on how to fix said problem?
and i don't think anyone ever hires someone they know for a position over a stranger.... that never happens
If Ranaudo's been healthy (velocity is where it should be) and his problems have been that everything's up control-wise, shouldn't someone be able to diagnose a mechanical problem and instruct him on how to fix said problem?
and i don't think anyone ever hires someone they know for a position over a stranger.... that never happens
Posted on 5/27/10 at 11:54 am to CWS91
quote:
all the "pitching coaches" under Skip were the pitcher's babysitter... Skip coached the pitchers as well as calling the pitches. Can anyone ever remember anyone other than Skip making a visit to the mound?
I dont think half the people in this thread even knew Skip was a pitching coach prior to coming here after mentoring from another great pitching/head coach.
Posted on 5/27/10 at 11:55 am to Catman88
quote:Canevari went from coaching high school to LSU's pitching coach, I am curious if you were bitching about that?
Is he a qualified PITCHING COACH?? NO and I do not see how anyone with an IQ over room temp can argue otherwise.
Of course you were not complaining, because LSU won 5 national championships in his 12 years. So assuming LSU does not win this year, LSU would have won 1 nc in 2 years with Grewe and pitching played a huge role in that 1 NC.
Who do you think did such a good job coaching pitchers last year(keep in mind Ranaudo and Ott were first year starters and Coleman improved, Jones greatly improved over the season)? If you think it was someone other than Grewe, then who in your mind should have the title of pitching coach?
Posted on 5/27/10 at 11:56 am to eelsuee
quote:
Canevari went from coaching high school to LSU's pitching coach, I am curious if you were bitching about that?
Holy shite you are a moron..
This post was edited on 5/27/10 at 11:57 am
Posted on 5/27/10 at 11:58 am to eelsuee
quote:
(keep in mind Ranaudo and Ott were first year starters and Coleman improved, Jones greatly improved over the season)?
Jones??? greatly improved??? WTF? Do you know ANYTHING about the team last year? Ranaudo had no teaching from TR?? Ott was a STARTER??
Posted on 5/27/10 at 12:03 pm to CWS91
quote:Do you ever watch MLB?????? There are always pitchers that terrible seasons and spend an entire off season working on their mechanics. Factor in Ranaudo returning from injury and you can't blame the coaches for his descent.
If Ranaudo's been healthy (velocity is where it should be) and his problems have been that everything's up control-wise, shouldn't someone be able to diagnose a mechanical problem and instruct him on how to fix said problem?
quote:Terrible attempt at deflecting the question, you would have been better off just ignoring it.
and i don't think anyone ever hires someone they know for a position over a stranger.... that never happens
Posted on 5/27/10 at 12:08 pm to Catman88
If picking a little half sentence and replying makes you feel like you are not losing an argument, just go ahead and do it.
I will just wait for another personal attack, because you are too stupid to actually reply to any of my previous points.
quote:Really?? Does this confuse you?? Nola is also a starter, that doesn't mean he is a starting picther, it means he is #1 at his position.
Ott was a STARTER?
I will just wait for another personal attack, because you are too stupid to actually reply to any of my previous points.
This post was edited on 5/27/10 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 5/27/10 at 12:10 pm to eelsuee
Oh sorry I thought part of the pitching coaches job was to fix mechanical problems like that, guess not
i will give Grewe this, whatever he came out & told Bert n the 8th last night worked, he was lights out after that. And I like the fact that Bert came out throwing fastballs & changeups n the 9th, after throwing the curve almost exclusively n the 8th
i will give Grewe this, whatever he came out & told Bert n the 8th last night worked, he was lights out after that. And I like the fact that Bert came out throwing fastballs & changeups n the 9th, after throwing the curve almost exclusively n the 8th
Posted on 5/27/10 at 12:12 pm to eelsuee
quote:
I will just wait for another personal attack, because you are too stupid...
ohh the irony..
Posted on 5/27/10 at 12:17 pm to eelsuee
You come with the dan crap and igore that skip was an eatablished pitching coach.
You claim chad jones improved over the season and you never answered the question as to who can the experience to mentor grewe... Yes you are a moron
You claim chad jones improved over the season and you never answered the question as to who can the experience to mentor grewe... Yes you are a moron
Posted on 5/27/10 at 12:17 pm to Honkus
Keith Law has it half right. His mechanics weren't changing other than he was using multiple arm slots to hit different spots with different pitches.
The lower the arm slot, the more you lead with the elbow. You actually use the elbow to point at your spot.
And, he backed off the heat after 2 because he saw he didn't need to throw it that hard to get the FB by.
People who write about a sport should have had to play it and know WTF they are talking about.
The lower the arm slot, the more you lead with the elbow. You actually use the elbow to point at your spot.
And, he backed off the heat after 2 because he saw he didn't need to throw it that hard to get the FB by.
People who write about a sport should have had to play it and know WTF they are talking about.
Posted on 5/27/10 at 12:17 pm to Honkus
quote:You don't understand either, I didn't say a stupid person resorts to personal attacks I said that is the only thing a stupid person can do. Your post proves my point.
ohh the irony..
This post was edited on 5/27/10 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 5/27/10 at 12:22 pm to eelsuee
Posted on 5/27/10 at 12:23 pm to eelsuee
nahh I made my points, u & the rest f the grewe apologists resorted to the name calling
Posted on 5/27/10 at 12:29 pm to Catman88
quote:Wrong, someone did a good job as pitching coach last year and regardless of it if were PM or Grewe the job got done and it was done well. Either Grewe did it and he is a good pitching coach or PM did it and it is similar to the Bertman/Canevari situation. So which is it in your opinion?
You come with the dan crap and igore that skip was an eatablished pitching coach.
quote:he had two appearances against Texas in the finals and both were perfect (1 inning and 1.2 innings). By the end of last season he was viewed as a reliable arm and no fans even expected him to pitch earlier in the season. You don't think Jones improved as a pitcher over the course of last season even though he missed time early for football?
You claim chad jones improved
quote:If you would translate that a little, I would attempt to answer it.
you never answered the question as to who can the experience to mentor grewe... Yes you are a moron
This post was edited on 5/27/10 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 5/27/10 at 12:31 pm to zztop1234
quote:
Stop crying because of a down year following a CWS title.
Texas is currently 46-8 and has been ranked # 1 most of the year. They certainly didn't have a down year following playing LSU for the National Championship last year.
Grewe = future Ohio State head coach or LSU recruiting coordinator and HITTING coach. Future LSU PITCHING coach = ????
..........Posted on 5/27/10 at 1:08 pm to eelsuee
I dont even know where to start with this garbage... Do you follow LSU baseball??
I already stated my opinion on this! THE PLAYERS DID IT! They had some damn good coaching from TR before he left, Coleman was already established as a dominant pitcher and Matty Ott has a backdoor slider which nobody can coach.
The BULL PEN SUCKED last year! Bradshaw had regressed as well
Again do you follow LSU baseball? You certainly didnt last year. Chad was a LATE SEASON experiment because he pitched in HS. He was not a pitcher AT ALL until literally the last month of the season. How can you possibly improve over the season as a pitcher when you were not considered a pitcher at ALL until they decided to let you try after seeing you messing around in practice and the bull pen is having tremendous issues? Chad pitched 6 innings the entire season three of those innings came in the CWS. So you are saying he improved over the season?
Sorry was on phone.. WHO is teaching GREWE how to be a pitching coach!
Skip had a pitching coach mentor... Dan had Skip.. Who does Grewe have?
quote:
Either Grewe did it and he is a good pitching coach or PM did it and it is similar to the Bertman/Canevari situation. So which is it in your opinion?
I already stated my opinion on this! THE PLAYERS DID IT! They had some damn good coaching from TR before he left, Coleman was already established as a dominant pitcher and Matty Ott has a backdoor slider which nobody can coach.
The BULL PEN SUCKED last year! Bradshaw had regressed as well
quote:
You don't think Jones improved as a pitcher over the course of last season
Again do you follow LSU baseball? You certainly didnt last year. Chad was a LATE SEASON experiment because he pitched in HS. He was not a pitcher AT ALL until literally the last month of the season. How can you possibly improve over the season as a pitcher when you were not considered a pitcher at ALL until they decided to let you try after seeing you messing around in practice and the bull pen is having tremendous issues? Chad pitched 6 innings the entire season three of those innings came in the CWS. So you are saying he improved over the season?
quote:
you never answered the question as to who can the experience to mentor grewe
Sorry was on phone.. WHO is teaching GREWE how to be a pitching coach!
Skip had a pitching coach mentor... Dan had Skip.. Who does Grewe have?
This post was edited on 5/27/10 at 1:21 pm
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