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re: Just got the courage to rewatch the first half...
Posted on 1/13/12 at 12:59 pm to Festus
Posted on 1/13/12 at 12:59 pm to Festus
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And I think I remember another one like this. Except it was a play, not a nonplay. And instead of running for another 20+ yards, JJ flipped the ball to the Bama linebacker for an interception.
Then he publicly chastised Ware for it.
when did he publicly chastise ware?
Give us the link or stop freaking making stuff up please
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 1:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Looking back on the first game, I think the players knew they were lucky to win. LSU's two biggest plays in that game (Jefferson's 18 yard run and his long pass to Shepard) were busted plays. I would guess that the memory of the first game, coupled with the dismal performance by the offense in the first half of the title game deflated the team.
It was a totally different team than I had seen from LSU this year. I think we all know from their demeanor that they were not giving themselves much of a chance.
You aren't really lucky to win if you have even time of possession and out-rush the other team (148 yards to 98). That plus superior special teams made LSU a deserving regular season winner. Certainly it could have gone the other way and if it had Bama would have been a deserving winner though.
As many have pointed out in the BCS NCG LSU failed to do much of anything on offense against Bama. That was a lack of downfield throws, false starts, fumbled snaps and poorly executed options. You just can't do that against an exceptional Alabama defense... they will eat you alive and they did
I'm sure someone with the time and passion will break down how LSU played on offense against Arkansas, UGA, and Bama down teh stretch. Aside from a really good running game (as teh games progress and they wear the other team out) I think there will be a lot of areas circled for improvement
Posted on 1/13/12 at 1:02 pm to fjohns1
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when did he publicly chastise ware? Give us the link or stop freaking making stuff up please
Here's your link.
Watch the ESPN replay of the play, take off your P&G blinders, and remove JJ's ballsack from your mouth.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 1:04 pm to fjohns1
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JJ flipped the ball to the Bama linebacker for an interception.
Then he publicly chastised Ware for it.
when did he publicly chastise ware?
he is referring to the "you dumbass" look JJ gave Ware after JJ threw the ball to a Bama defender
JJ's body language was a problem... he was tight and it showed all game (as well as earlier when he blamed teh center for a fumbled snap)
I know JJ wanted to win and I suspect many if not almost all of us would fold under teh kind of pressure they he played under but he did not thrive under pressure in his last game
Posted on 1/13/12 at 1:14 pm to Chicken
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Bama was begging us to pass deep on them and we didn't.
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Not a single pass was thrown beyond 10 yards. Repeat...not a single pass was thrown beyond 10 yards.
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Jefferson was not as bad as you may think.
None of that computes for me. We have never stretched the field in a tight game with JJ. Never. Why would us NEVER attempting something, lead you to determine how well JJ was playing?
Bama knew who the starter was and played to our weakness. By the time the fans realized it, the game was over, and the half had arrived
Miles never realized it
Posted on 1/13/12 at 1:24 pm to Chicken
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not in the first half
I was at the game, and can tell you for a fact that this is not true. The middle of the field and deep routes were there all night. Both halves.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 1:27 pm to Chicken
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McCarron played nearly flawless. He was able to escape pressure and make plays. He was perfect on those out-routes to the TE, and made some huge completions throughout the half, especially on that last drive of the 2nd qtr. He was the difference in the game
He was prepared and executed - He was just stellar.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 1:28 pm to Commando
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The middle of the field and deep routes were there all night. Both halves.
We don't use the middle of the field. 99% of our passes are outside the hash. LM is afraid of traffic/interceptions.....
Posted on 1/13/12 at 1:29 pm to The Gooch
Thanks Chicken for starting a sensible thread..... 
Posted on 1/13/12 at 1:42 pm to The Gooch
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We don't use the middle of the field. 99% of our passes are outside the hash. LM is afraid of traffic/interceptions.....
I certainly seem to remember that we rediscovered the middle of the field at the beginning of the season. You have a TE no one should be able to cover and at least one big physical WR that operates well in the middle. LB's creep up to stuff the run, throw a freaking slant!
Posted on 1/13/12 at 1:56 pm to Chicken
I am hoping to re-watch it this weekend while I am home. I think I might actually be able to watch a few minutes of it with a somewhat rational state of mind. 
Posted on 1/13/12 at 2:01 pm to Chicken
FWIW, I think JJ basically (did he) breaking Mosely's leg was pretty sweet considering.
After the pass pass he reacted really well. I felt bad for him actually. The look on his face just made it appear the team was not on the same page at all.
After the pass pass he reacted really well. I felt bad for him actually. The look on his face just made it appear the team was not on the same page at all.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 2:01 pm to YoungJR24
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Alabama was just better than LSU all year.
I don't know about being better "all year" but by the end of the season they were.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 2:05 pm to Festus
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Watch the ESPN replay of the play
That's a huge assumption to take a "look" captured in a split second following what was clearly a devastating play and equate it with a publicly chastizing Ware
Posted on 1/13/12 at 2:12 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
Actually, there were plenty during the year, and his career. But, if you want another example, go to this game, first series, fumbled snap. Watch the initial look JJ gives. Then, watch the exchange between he and the center in the huddle that follows. Pay close attention to the center's reaction, as well as to who the commentator says is at fault. That pattern has been repeated his entire career. No reason to think it was any different on the Ware play.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 2:17 pm to Chicken
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Looking back on the first game, I think the players knew they were lucky to win. LSU's two biggest plays in that game (Jefferson's 18 yard run and his long pass to Shepard) were busted plays. I would guess that the memory of the first game, coupled with the dismal performance by the offense in the first half of the title game deflated the team.
Maybe the team knew they got away with one and "hoped" they would be better the second time around. Personally, all the GOAT speak may have caused the team to live in the cloud going into this game thereby causing a lack of focus on executing the plays called, especially the running plays.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 2:17 pm to Festus
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Actually, there were plenty during the year, and his career. But, if you want another example, go to this game, first series, fumbled snap. Watch the initial look JJ gives. Then, watch the exchange between he and the center in the huddle that follows. Pay close attention to the center's reaction, as well as to who the commentator says is at fault. That pattern has been repeated his entire career. No reason to think it was any different on the Ware play
I'm not saying he has not said some questionable stuff, but it's a flat out lie to say he publically chastizing Ware after that play or anyone else that I recall. I have not exactly been tuning into sports center for commments on the game so I may have missed it.
He looked pissed and confused after the int. I'd hope so for God's sake. Even if he blamed the center in the huddle that's far for chastizing him publically. We have know idea what was said or the situation.
This post was edited on 1/13/12 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 1/13/12 at 2:20 pm to Chicken
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Jefferson was not as bad as you may think.
ha, what a joke. stopped reading right there. sounds like you need to re-watch it.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 2:20 pm to Chicken
You are very patient. I quit watching ESPN when they started pushing for rematch. That game is as illegitimate as it gets.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 2:24 pm to Commando
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I certainly seem to remember that we rediscovered the middle of the field at the beginning of the season.
Nope, we didn't....
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You have a TE no one should be able to cover and at least one big physical WR that operates well in the middle. LB's creep up to stuff the run, throw a freaking slant!
Don't disagree with this...no matter who the QB is you need to make the defense account for the entire field.
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