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re: Johnny Jones Will Be Back for 16-17 Season
Posted on 3/24/16 at 1:30 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 3/24/16 at 1:30 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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He does give his players a lot of freedom on the court so assuming the players I mentioned improve, the play on the court should improve.
Giving some freedom is understandable, but when your team has poor fundamentals and discipline, it's the coach's responsibility to exercise control...otherwise it's choas or just pick up basketball, which we see so many times with JJ. It's just part of a bigger problem with JJ that he has terrible situation recognition and awareness, and/or how to adjust.
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Posted on 3/24/16 at 1:32 pm to Alt26
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Let's assume both Blakeney and Quarterman return. LSU could have a solid four guard line up with either Patterson or Mays. The problem is they have nothing inside other than Victor who can't stay out of foul trouble. Even if Victor can improve defensively, he's not going to be a rim-protector and under Jones LSU has been absolutely awful at keeping teams from getting to the basket at will. Jordan Mickey cleaned up A LOT of mistakes on defense. Reath could be the second coming of Tyrus Thomas, but I doubt it. So outside of Victor, you NOTHING inside.
The reports on Reath, even when compared to Odo, have been very good. Some have him penciled in as the starter at the 5 with Victor moving to the 4.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 1:34 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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He does give his players a lot of freedom on the court
So much freedom that they have no earthly idea what they're doing out there. Yay
Posted on 3/24/16 at 1:35 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Victor moving to the 4.
This is key. Him playing at the 4 could really help to fix the foul trouble he had this year.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 1:51 pm to bubbz
How exciting 
Posted on 3/24/16 at 1:55 pm to bubbz
Posted on 3/24/16 at 2:39 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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The reports on Reath, even when compared to Odo, have been very good. Some have him penciled in as the starter at the 5 with Victor moving to the 4.
I admire your optimism, but I remember being on the board when people were excited about the JUCO scoring leader coming the LSU. Gray never really developed into anything close to what many were expecting.
Duop averaged 15/8 and Odo averaged 13/14 (led country). After knowing what Odo did, hard for me to get excited about Duop.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 3:05 pm to LSU713
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I admire your optimism, but I remember being on the board when people were excited about the JUCO scoring leader coming the LSU. Gray never really developed into anything close to what many were expecting.
Duop averaged 15/8 and Odo averaged 13/14 (led country). After knowing what Odo did, hard for me to get excited about Duop.
Being scared of all JUCOs simply because 2 didn't live up to expectations is just very shortsighted. And even though Josh Gray didn't live up to his billing, he helped this team a lot during his 2 years. He probably had the best drive to the basket/finish on the team.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 3:09 pm to Mickey Goldmill
A better coach would have gotten Elbert, Epps and Sampson to be contributors by the end of the season and we would not have had depth issues.
Those guys have talent. They just don't have direction or confidence.
Those guys have talent. They just don't have direction or confidence.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 3:13 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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And even though Josh Gray didn't live up to his billing, he ... probably had the best drive to the basket/finish on the team.
correct that Gray could penetrate as well as anyone on the team, but he was AWFUL at finishing. And that led to a lot of turnovers.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 3:32 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Being scared of all JUCOs simply because 2 didn't live up to expectations is just very shortsighted. And even though Josh Gray didn't live up to his billing, he helped this team a lot during his 2 years. He probably had the best drive to the basket/finish on the team.
I don't think it's being scared of all JUCO; I think it's not being naive thinking that JUCO players are not going to rescue the program. I think it's being realistic. History seems to be more on my side than your side.
When's the last JUCO player for LSU that made significant contributions to the team (last was maybe Lloreda who was the JUCO player of the year). Josh Gray averaged like 6 points for his career...to say he helped this team a lot is a stretch and I think it's realistic to say he severely underperformed expectations he had coming out of JUCO.
LSU will need significant contributions from JUCO players to be a player for the tourney, and the benchmarks just don't support that expectation.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 3:45 pm to LSU713
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When's the last JUCO player for LSU that made significant contributions to the team (last was maybe Lloreda who was the JUCO player of the year).
Shavon Coleman 2 years ago. For his 2 year career at LSU, he averaged 27 minutes a game, 10pts, 6 rebounds.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 3:49 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Being scared of all JUCOs simply because 2 didn't live up to expectations is just very shortsighted.
I think he's just comparing JUCO stats of Reath to those of Odo (who was useless in D1 basketball). There really isn't any reason to assume Reath will be any better, besides these "reports" you reference. Especially not to the point of remedying our post situation.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 4:09 pm to lsu2006
LSU will be fine next season. I'm just worried about the team in 17-18 when Blakeney & Quarterman are gone (NBA Draft).
17-18 is more of a make or break for Jones.
17-18 is more of a make or break for Jones.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 4:27 pm to tzimme4
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LSU will be fine next season
what's your definition of "fine"?
Posted on 3/24/16 at 4:28 pm to LSU713
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I don't think it's being scared of all JUCO; I think it's not being naive thinking that JUCO players are not going to rescue the program. I think it's being realistic. History seems to be more on my side than your side.
When's the last JUCO player for LSU that made significant contributions to the team (last was maybe Lloreda who was the JUCO player of the year). Josh Gray averaged like 6 points for his career...to say he helped this team a lot is a stretch and I think it's realistic to say he severely underperformed expectations he had coming out of JUCO.
LSU will need significant contributions from JUCO players to be a player for the tourney, and the benchmarks just don't support that expectation.
That's the thing. LSU doesn't just need some sort of "contribution" from Reath, they need him to be, at minimum, a significant rebounder and shot blocker. People on here love to dump on Simmons, but he put up 20/12/5. The 20 and 5 can be replaced. The 12 is much harder if Reath is not a formidable rebounder. Malone and Robinson are just to slow and unathletic to be good rebounders. Epps has the athleticism, but no desire whatsoever to bang inside. Unfortunately, they are even worse defenders than rebounders.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 4:29 pm to tzimme4
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LSU will be fine next season.
Based on...?
Will Jones all of a sudden start teaching defensive fundamentals? Will Jones magically learn how to motivate his players? Will he implement any semblance of a half-court offense that can break a zone? Otherwise I don't see how we'll be "fine" unless "fine" to you is being horribly undercoached and missing the tournament again.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 5:22 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Shavon Coleman 2 years ago. For his 2 year career at LSU, he averaged 27 minutes a game, 10pts, 6 rebounds.
Fair response. I thought Shavon was a good "glue" guy, who brought good value on defense. But, as a poster said, I don't think this team needs a "glue guy" to be the interior leader of the team's defense. They need a significant contributor and it seems like Reath has a lot of similarities in numbers and stature as Odo.
I guess we'll see.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 8:32 pm to LSU713
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When's the last JUCO player for LSU that made significant contributions to the team
Marcus Thornton
Posted on 3/24/16 at 9:13 pm to GRIZZ
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Marcus Thornton
Yea, that's a great one. Forgot about him. I stand corrected; but it's been a while
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