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re: Joe Schad reports JJ attorney disputes that he kicked anyone In the head
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:03 pm to ZTiger87
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:03 pm to ZTiger87
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hy would they not wait to talk to the cops or attorneys? And their story could contain information that would clear JJ. They clearly state that at some point during the fight JJ was not involved. If other people are accusing JJ of being involved in the fight at this point than you have conflicting stories. The employees' story is backed by video so JJ would be cleared.
Yet they have not gone to the cops themselves, unless you believe Moss claiming they went to the station and tried to offer their version and were rebuffed.
They never claimed JJ was or wasn't involved, just that at some random point he wasn't in the middle of it. That means absolutely nothing unless they can say he for certain wasn't in there at all times.
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Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:09 pm to Geaux2002
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Yet they have not gone to the cops themselves, unless you believe Moss claiming they went to the station and tried to offer their version and were rebuffed.
These aren't some random witnesses, they are employees at the bar the fight took place. Why the cops would not talk to them that very night or the next day is puzzling. Either they don't want to or the employees refused to talk. Again, puzzling either way.
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They never claimed JJ was or wasn't involved, just that at some random point he wasn't in the middle of it. That means absolutely nothing unless they can say he for certain wasn't in there at all times.
As I said before, the employees have video to back their story. If witnesses are accusing JJ of doing something when the employees said he wasn't, than that would clear JJ of those accusations. Obviously it doesn't mean JJ was never involved in the fight, but it certainly could clear him of some accusations.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:12 pm to ZTiger87
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but it certainly could clear him of some accusations.
The only one that matters is the kick to the head. That's it.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:14 pm to Geaux2002
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They never claimed JJ was or wasn't involved, just that at some random point he wasn't in the middle of it. That means absolutely nothing unless they can say he for certain wasn't in there at all times.
AM is full of shite. If the cops had someone offering info that help in this investigation, there is no way they wouldn't listen.
He is probably telling a bouncers side of the story, which brings another question of why it has taken so long for them to come forward with this valuable TRUTH.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:15 pm to CptBengal
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The only one that matters is the kick to the head. That's it.
Not really. The broken vertebrae are just as big of an issue. We also have no idea what the other 3 victims' accusations are.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:23 pm to ZTiger87
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As I said before, the employees have video to back their story. If witnesses are accusing JJ of doing something when the employees said he wasn't, than that would clear JJ of those accusations. Obviously it doesn't mean JJ was never involved in the fight, but it certainly could clear him of some accusations.
No one to my knowledge has disputed what occurred inside, which is what the initial parts of that article (bouncer's testimony are referring to). It is also irrelevant to the actions that occurred outside. It is clear in the video that Lowery does indeed rush to the aid of the driver and put him in the car and then get pummeled and eventually kicked while he is down. Neither of the witnesses has discounted that. They say Lowery was involved in a brawl separate of the one with the truck driver, and this still does not counter Lowery's claims of when he was helping the driver.
In the end, the only thing they can do is offer a small amount of contradiction to other parts of Lowery's testimony, which does not mean that the charges aren't filed and arrests made. The DA will now have to decide whether to pursue this further, and can weigh in more evidence.
The fact is Moss and many of you simply want to believe the LSU players couldn't have done this and will grasp at anything that makes it sound like they didn't. Looking at it logically and with deduction, Lowery is a fricktard that started an incident and LSU players fought back. That is all that is clear.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:24 pm to ZTiger87
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Not really. The broken vertebrae are just as big of an issue. We also have no idea what the other 3 victims' accusations are.
Bingo, and neither does Antonio Moss who continues to make this out like he knows so much, when all he knows is some random shite a bouncer told him that even the bouncer admitted he couldn't say if JJ kicked him or not.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:29 pm to Antonio Moss
You've made so many asinine posts in this thread that aren't even worthy of a response, but
Are you that fukn dumb? You really think the investigators refused to take statements from witnesses?
You might be believable on a pre-school message board, but this ain't one of em.
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I know for a fact that police won't talk to them.
Prove that the police are willing to talk to them.
Are you that fukn dumb? You really think the investigators refused to take statements from witnesses?
You might be believable on a pre-school message board, but this ain't one of em.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:34 pm to Geaux2002
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The fact is Moss and many of you simply want to believe the LSU players couldn't have done this and will grasp at anything that makes it sound like they didn't. Looking at it logically and with deduction, Lowery is a fricktard that started an incident and LSU players fought back. That is all that is clear.
BINGO. Way too many posters are still trying to hang on to anything they can. Many of them can't admit they have been wrong all week, and it's time for everyone to move on
It's JL time, and there is plenty of room on the wagon.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:35 pm to crimsonsaint
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You might be believable on a pre-school message board, but this ain't one of em.
You can't be serious, huh?
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:35 pm to Choctaw
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someone has...in fact, several someones have. for some reason the police never interviewed them
i find this really hard to believe
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:38 pm to TigerWoody
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yes this shite is FAR from over
fify
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:40 pm to WHATDOINO
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BINGO. Way too many posters are still trying to hang on to anything they can. Many of them can't admit they have been wrong all week, and it's time for everyone to move on
JJ may very well be innocent. It could be possible, but there isn't some massive conspiracy between the cops and Lowery 'n' company to take him out. Either the evidence is there or its not to warrant at least the charge being pressed. It's not the job of the police to determine guilt or innocence, but people keep assuming it is.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:40 pm to LSUEnvy
And that the BRPD should stop jumping to conclusions based on ONE 19-year-old girl's testimony. I want to KNOW what were on those shoes. Are are they trying to make it fit their preconceived notions?
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:41 pm to LSUfanaddict
Because we have yet to hear SOLID evidence that JJ did it...we don't know about Josh or anyone for that matter. What about all the CONFLICTING testimony? Are those just JJ supporters that are just LYING?
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:48 pm to LSUfanaddict
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Because we have yet to hear SOLID evidence that JJ did it...we don't know about Josh or anyone for that matter. What about all the CONFLICTING testimony? Are those just JJ supporters that are just LYING?
Have all these people providing conflicting testimony giving statements to the cops or are you basing it off of people one here or calling in on a radio show? None of those statements mean shite unless they are officially given to the cops, because then there is reprecussions for falsifying them.
If there were legitimate counter testimony against what the cops had claiming JJ did it, then they wouldn't have been able to get a warrant.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:49 pm to Geaux2002
I'm talking about the Shady's employees. They did not exonerate JJ but give possibly conflicting DETAILS. It's all over the national media.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:55 pm to LSUfanaddict
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I'm talking about the Shady's employees. They did not exonerate JJ but give possibly conflicting DETAILS. It's all over the national media.
And yet have managed to avoid communicating this to the police for over a week now. No offense, but if they had legit testimony, they would've gone to the cops. What they say to the paper is worthless since they cannot be held accountable for lying about it.
It makes much more logical sense that they know what happened and to avoid fricking with LSU (bad for business) didn't cooperate with the cops and then go to the media acting like they are covering for LSU's players because they can't be held liable for it. Turn around and claim the cops never accepted to hear their testimony and "voila" the validity of the investigation has been compromised.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:06 am to LSUfanaddict
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Because we have yet to hear SOLID evidence that JJ did it...we don't know about Josh or anyone for that matter. What about all the CONFLICTING testimony? Are those just JJ supporters that are just LYING?
Four players were asked to come to the BRPD and be questioned. All four became "emotional" by all accounts. Two of them were charged today. What do you think the other two told the police?
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:25 am to Geaux2002
Actually other football players claimed he didnt. How is this any diff from long claiming he did?
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