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re: Joe Burrow, 5-Wide & 5 in Pass Protection? "It Means the World"

Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:30 am to
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:30 am to
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What a bizarre statement. I'm not sure where you got that from the OP


Yesterday's melt.

Remember the threads started over the past two days if Burrow ever has a mediocre game.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:32 am to
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The tight formation you speak off also allows us to get receivers in matchups that greatly favor us.
LSU's wide open offense made it the highest scoring O in college football... up until Saturday's experiment with running Tight formations for the first half. Oklahoma took the #1 spot by hanging 52 on West Virginia.

I think we've seen the last of an emphasis on the Tight formation
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133668 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:32 am to
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It’s become a lot like basketball in the sense that we are looking to exploit certain defenders who we think are not capable of guarding our guys.


Speaking of basketball...I sure wish basketball and football seasons didn't overlap because basketball is the perfect complementary sport for football especially in terms of the WR and QB positions. Both of these positions require the player to read and react to defensive positions and to move to space...just like basketball. When you hear a commentator say, "he just has a knack for finding the soft spot in the zone". That's not just the WR finding that soft spot that's also the QB knowing were that soft spot is going to be.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41962 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:33 am to
LSU is also playing conference opponents, they aren't going to score 70 points every game. This isn't a video game.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:35 am to
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Burrow is confirming that he does NOT want or need the Max Protect that "Tight" formations easily provide.


So...why did you feel the need to complain when people were attempting to give credit to Brady for this year's scheme while not ALSO giving equal credit to Ensminger and Orgeron considering the guys who were running max protect last year...you know, BEFORE Brady...were Ensminger and Orgeron?

It kind of seems like you waver back and forth with no end goal in mind, just bitching about things regardless of which side you fall that day.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133668 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:37 am to
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I think we've seen the last of an emphasis on the Tight formation



The emphasis has been on countering defensive formations with a play that Brady/E thinks will be successful. That emphasis will continue. Whether it's the tight formation or five wide will depend on the flow of the game and what the defense shows.

But in terms of what we know. We know we won't see a toss dive.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41962 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:37 am to
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It kind of seems like you waver back and forth with no end goal in mind


The end goal is obvious and it isn't LSU as a team related. It is about one individual player.

I really hope this person isn't a relative because I would be embarrassed if I was Joe.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:42 am to
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What a bizarre statement. I'm not sure where you got that from the OP.
Same group of a couple dozen individuals who bash and attempt to discredit anyone who posts positive comments about Orgeron or Burrow.

Pay them no mind. When children, they were the ones throwing mud balls in the sand box.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171903 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:46 am to
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It really seems lately that you are setting yourself up for some disappointment from Burrow, by preemptively blaming the coaching staff.

Seems the real LSU fans have more confidence in Burrow than his stalker guy does.


Drunk in the morning or just stupid?

OP sucks, but this thread is fine. I don't think Joe advocates for 5 wide and 5 in pass pro on literally every play.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 8:47 am
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
17816 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:47 am to
The tight formation you speak off also allows us to get receivers in matchups that greatly favor us.
LSU's wide open offense made it the highest scoring O in college football... up until Saturday's experiment with running Tight formations for the first half. Oklahoma took the #1 spot by hanging 52 on West Virginia.

I think we've seen the last of an emphasis on the Tight formation


Buckeye buckeye it appears you study lots of film . I can think of many big scoring plays this year that were run out of that “tight” formation. Go look them up and report back.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
45420 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:49 am to
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Green Dog Blitz


Lionel Turner, tyfys
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31581 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:49 am to
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Pay them no mind



Just like you paid no mind to that 14 page meltdown you had yesterday.


No one here is bashing any coach or player. You’re pulling that card in a desperate attempt to save face.


If someone in this thread is bashing the coaches or players, kindly link it. Thanks x o x o
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 8:53 am
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:51 am to
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The end goal is obvious and it isn't LSU as a team related. It is about one individual player.

I really hope this person isn't a relative because I would be embarrassed if I was Joe


Somebody gets it.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:52 am to
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OP sucks, but this thread is fine. I don't think Joe advocates for 5 wide and 5 in pass pro on literally every play


It's a collection of recent threads, not just this one in particular.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:54 am to
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The end goal is obvious and it isn't LSU as a team related. It is about one individual player.

I really hope this person isn't a relative because I would be embarrassed if I was Joe.


I agree with both statements and have said so since he arrived here.

But my point is that several days ago he felt the need to argue for hours on end with fans who had dared to suggest that Brady deserved extra credit for the changes that have come to LSU's offense. His argument at the time was that to credit Brady without ALSO crediting E and O equally was absurd, because E was the OC. He refused to accept that E was not running anything LIKE the 2019 version of the LSU offense in 2018, and was busing trying to run with the idea that 2018 was some sort of transitional year as we slowly worked in parts of the 2019 offense. This despite the fact that we could all see that was blatantly false. Hell, what I just referenced proves that. We bitched constantly here last year about the idea that Max Protect was not the best way to protect Burrow and was actually making it harder for his. Last year...E's offense.

I'm just curious what the end goal here in regards to this sort of stuff? What is there to gain by one day propping up parts of the staff, then the next shitting on the same guys.
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21601 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:00 am to
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Oklahoma took the #1 spot by


Who frickin cares, its about winning games, well if you’re actually an lsu fan thats what’s important.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:07 am to
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Buckeye buckeye it appears you study lots of film . I can think of many big scoring plays this year that were run out of that “tight” formation. Go look them up and report back.

It is your claim. Name five with game, quarter, and time on the game clock.

I just looked at Burrow's 2019 TD video. Saw one. Northwestern. And there was a blown coverage TD against MSU.

An occasional Tight is fine. 19 Tights in a half is silly.

But "Many big scoring plays"... C'mon man!
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 9:14 am
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
1203 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:13 am to
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The end goal is obvious and it isn't LSU as a team related. It is about one individual player.

I really hope this person isn't a relative because I would be embarrassed if I was Joe.


What if it is Joe? lol
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282925 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:15 am to
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But I give you credit for at least moving on from that.


You should give him credit for a lot of things. Y'all whined about him all offseason and the dude was spot on.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:16 am to
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You should give him credit for a lot of things. Y'all whined about him all offseason and the dude was spot on.
^^THAT^^ is exactly what has them pitching their never-ending hissy-fit.

This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 9:19 am
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