re: JJ starts the season

i support lee at QB. every tiger fan does

JJ's ability to run for a decisive first down or two in a game makes him a better overall QB than Lee IMO.

Other than that, they look pretty even to me - both have some abilities and some obvious weaknesses.

In the end, if I had to choose who would start, I would choose - not the one who would move the ball better, but the one who would be less likely to turn it over - and for me, that's still Jefferson.

I guess this proves LSU RB's really do run better when Lee is in the game.

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7 drops

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What?

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At least 4 passes that should have been completed for another 100+ yards - 14 of 22 for 200 yds would look much better.

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I was about to write this same thing. Lee had at least 3 flat out drops and another great catch by Beckham nullified by the phantom holding call.

So he would have been something like 13-22 for 185 or 200 yards. Very respectable but the first half, his receivers didn't do him any favors.

I thought Lee played fine......yeah he's a little skittish with even the appearance of pressure, which may be a problem later. But anyone with a brain can see this team can win by running the football and D.....no need to have Lee try to be Marino.

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Qb play looked exactly the same as last year.

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are you serious? You must not have been watching the same game. Lee had some very good touch on the ball. Once the receivers get the jitters out and start catching anything, you'll see the difference

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You can remove names and history. But you can't remove context bro. Names and history don't make the game but the context does. If the context was that we won, had no picks, ran a steady offense but the receivers had 7 drops, then yes I would accept it.

Context is everything.


If we had a QB that threw for 400 yards and 6 tds but we lost, would you accept it? It wouldn't matter what the QB did because of the context.

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I accept it, as I've said many times. It wasn't bad. He didn't cost us the game. But that's as far as it goes. Remember McElroy's stats in the MNCG two years ago? Was anyone talking about what a great game he had? No. He did his job, but he did nothing to earn a huge heaping of praise.

Now I don't mind players getting praised for whatever reason, but when I see blatently distorted perceptions being passed off as fact, and echoed by needing-to-believe dittoheads, it rubs me the wrong way.

LSU is a football team. We don't need ministers of propaganda arbitrarily shaping the truth for us humble spectators. But this campaign, if you will, has been ongoing and generally effective. Most people would not believe that JJ's career yards per attempt and completion percentages are higher than Lee's. I'm leaving out absolute numbers (yards, TDs, etc.) because JJ played so many more games that it wouldn't be fair.

Why do you think that is?

I think he should have been at least 15-22 for about 175 to 200 yards

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At least 4 passes that should have been completed for another 100+ yards - 14 of 22 for 200 yds would look much better.

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don't forget the 40 plus yarder to beckham that came back on a phantom holding call

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I think he should have been at least 15-22 for about 175

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he would've been 13-22 for 150-175 without the drops early. easily. It's not great but it's about what I would've expected. Stat line sucked, but what people aren't talking about is the fact that the o line pretty much bent the Oregon's defense over and made them scream uncle.