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re: JJ should get a big ovation when he enters the game........
Posted on 10/1/11 at 1:15 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 10/1/11 at 1:15 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:His assumption is supported by lack of evidence for the existence of a rift.
I am not the one who assumed.
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Posted on 10/1/11 at 1:15 am to Roaad
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You are.
It is why you responded.
Posted on 10/1/11 at 1:16 am to RogerTheShrubber
Just the facts, brah.
Posted on 10/1/11 at 1:18 am to Roaad
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His assumption is supported by lack of evidence for the existence of a rift.
Right, so he can conclusively gather there is no rift. That's pretty stupid. A rather intelligent person could make no conclusions.
Posted on 10/1/11 at 1:18 am to Roaad
sory for assuming roger but all indications are is that they are not petty little bitches wearing their moms underwear
Posted on 10/1/11 at 1:22 am to boxcar willie
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sory for assuming roger but all indications are is that they are not petty little bitches wearing their moms underwear
Kids will be kids Willy. Kids will be kids.
Posted on 10/1/11 at 1:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:conclusively? no.
Right, so he can conclusively gather there is no rift.
But the safest assumption right now.
How conclusive do you demand statements be on the Rant?
How many corroborating sources would appease you?
Posted on 10/1/11 at 1:29 am to Roaad
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How many corroborating sources would appease you?
Why do I need appeasing? How about seeing how the season plays out..
Posted on 10/1/11 at 4:44 am to The312
quote:Wow. Some of you just don't read a thing, do you?
Wait, I just want to be clear, JJ "deserves" to be applauded because he broke curfew (tradition or not), went to a bar, foolishly placed himself in the middle of a brawl, allegedly kicked someone in the head, and has now been charged with battery as a result?
He was arrested and charged with a felony. As a result of being charged specifically with a felony, he was removed from the team for four games and faced the threat of decades in prison. The grand jury looked at the evidence and found there wasn't even enough evidence that he committed that felony, so they refused to allow the charge to stand. That means he suffered a lot of shite THAT WAS UNWARRANTED.
If some of you are having trouble with this concept, think of it this way:
You are speeding down the highway. A cop pulls you over, and charges you with DUI. As a result, you license is taken away for several weeks, your car is impounded, and you lose your job because your employer has a zero tolerance policy on DUI. Then the charges come before a grand jury, and the grand jury says, "this is bullshite! All the guy was doing was speeding, just charge him with that." You are guilty of breaking the law. You did "bring it upon yourself" by choosing to violate the speed limit. But you clearly did not deserve all of those consequences which are severely out of proportion with merely speeding.
Right now, Jordan Jefferson is not known to have done ANYTHING illegal. He is suspected of being involved in a bar fight that constituted simple battery, a misdemeanor. Coach Miles has an established history of how he handles guys charged with misdemeanors who have no history of trouble or discipline problems whatsoever, and that history has NEVER included removing the player from the team for 6 weeks, including 4 games. That was Jefferson's punishment for the felony with which he was charged. That charge has now been found to be unsubstantiated, so yes, he has suffered more than he would have had he only been charged with what the evidence apparently justified charging him. Many people find it unfair when someone is punished for something more severe than what they actually did. Some of those people are LSU fans, and apparently a few even post on this board. On the other hand, there are also clearly people on this board who have no problem punishing people with crimes for which there is no more reason to suspect they committed than there is reason to suspect you committed.
Posted on 10/1/11 at 4:51 am to White Tiger
quote:And what era was that where every leader was permanently kicked out every time they violated any rule? VMI was never even foolish enough to apply a rule that stupid. No functional organization or society has ever applied that standard, and only a complete fool would ever even suggest it. NO COACH in history who ever won anything worth mentioning has ever applied a rule like that; why would you want ours to do so? Rules like that destroy character, punish reason, and breed idiotic micromanagement and obsession with minutia in lieu of the big picture. That's just dumb. Thank god that era (whereever it may have existed in whatever clearly irrelevant and pointlessly doomed subculture) is not the here and now. And thank god it has never been the rule at LSU, or we'd have never had a meaningful program.
He and everyone who violated team rules should have been thrown off the team, but rules, good conduct and leadership are curiosities of a bygone era, my friend
Posted on 10/1/11 at 4:53 am to munchman
quote:Okay, noted. If that situation ever comes up, we'll know how you feel. Now, what do you think of the current situation, where a player is wrongly accused of a felony without the evidence to support that charge, suffers a major suspension (1/3 of a season), spends about a month and a half removed from the team, and all because he was charged with a crime that he apparently did not commit?
not for someone who kicked a defenseless man while on the ground, then lied to his coach.....thus throwing his coach under the bus
Posted on 10/1/11 at 5:08 am to jeffsdad
Sorry , thats not going to happen. I feel that just by skipping curfew and being dumb enough to get into a fight at a bar, just days before the game that would set the tempo for a National Championship year, he let all of tiger nation know that he cares more about college life than LSU Football. I drive five hours one way just to see the tigers play at home, and will only be cheering Lee untill an unfortunate event takes place which gives Jefferson a chance at redemption.
This post was edited on 10/1/11 at 5:10 am
Posted on 10/1/11 at 5:29 am to NorthLaCajun
We should cheer JJ. He is the reason LEE is in the starting spot and has shown his true potential.
Posted on 10/1/11 at 5:38 am to fr33manator
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We should cheer JJ. He is the reason LEE is in the starting spot and has shown his true potential
Since you put it that way....
I feel better after hearing Les speak yesterday. I will reserve final judgement until I see if his actions match his words...
Posted on 10/1/11 at 5:43 am to NorthLaCajun
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Sorry , thats not going to happen. I feel that just by skipping curfew and being dumb enough to get into a fight at a bar, just days before the game that would set the tempo for a National Championship year, he let all of tiger nation know that he cares more about college life than LSU Football. I drive five hours one way just to see the tigers play at home, and will only be cheering Lee untill an unfortunate event takes place which gives Jefferson a chance at redemption.
Yeah, because it's ALL about YOU.
I drove 7-8 every weekend when I lived in Marietta , Georgia and that was in the 90s when LSU stunk it up every year. That's what true fans do year in, year out, not selectively chose which team member to dis. You think someone who you've not heard one bad thing in almost 4 years (unlike Ryan Perrilloux) just decided one night to kick the shite out of somebody? I don't think so.
JJ wasn't the only player out that night. Most of the team was breaking curfew at one bar or another because it was a TRADITION to do so on the last night of practice.
I still don't believe Jefferson was part of the fight, I don't believe Jefferson did what he's been accused of and even if he did take some part in the fight, it got blown wayyyyyyyyyyyyy out of proportion by the BRPD. I have spoken with several people that said they were at Shadygate that night and JJ didn't do anything.
But according to all you rantards, he did. Guess he is guilty until proven innocent which is OPPOSITE of what our judicial system is based on.
Posted on 10/1/11 at 7:00 am to Icansee4miles
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Since you put it that way....
Why else would we be cheering?
He got himself into the situation that got him suspended. And it may have been the best play he makes all season.Posted on 10/1/11 at 7:14 am to King Joey
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Okay, noted. If that situation ever comes up, we'll know how you feel. Now, what do you think of the current situation, where a player is wrongly accused of a felony without the evidence to support that charge, suffers a major suspension (1/3 of a season), spends about a month and a half removed from the team, and all because he was charged with a crime that he apparently did not commit?
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So, you're one of those that believe O.J. and Casey Anthony are innocent.
Okay, noted. If that situation ever comes up, we'll know how you feel. Now, what do you think of the current situation, where a player is wrongly accused of a felony without the evidence to support that charge, suffers a major suspension (1/3 of a season), spends about a month and a half removed from the team, and all because he was charged with a crime that he apparently did not commit?
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So, you're one of those that believe O.J. and Casey Anthony are innocent.
This post was edited on 10/1/11 at 7:19 am
Posted on 10/1/11 at 7:49 am to boxcar willie
Hey I am not for booing LSU players and will not be booing JJ. However I do not see where he has earned respect and admiration. For what being one of the worst qb's in the country going into this season and then being involved enough in a bar fight to get indicted???
Posted on 10/1/11 at 8:04 am to White Tiger
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Why should the senior QB get an ovation for screwing up two weeks prior to a huge opening game. He and everyone who violated team rules should have been thrown off the team, but rules, good conduct and leadership are curiosities of a bygone era, my friend.
If you think LSU players haven't broken rules and had it swept under the rug for friggin' decades, you're delusional. This mess happened to become public. And, as far as this incident is concerned, if you kicked everyone who broke the rules off the team, we'd be in shite shape to beat anyone.
Posted on 10/1/11 at 8:12 am to VOR
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If you think LSU players haven't broken rules and had it swept under the rug for friggin' decades, you're delusional. This mess happened to become public. And, as far as this incident is concerned, if you kicked everyone who broke the rules off the team, we'd be in shite shape to beat anyone.
I agree with this..
Still aint giving the dude a standing ovation.
That's fricking retarded.
Only qb that deserves a stadning ovation is the starter.
This post was edited on 10/1/11 at 8:15 am
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