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re: Jeremy Hill arrested for battery

Posted on 4/28/13 at 4:51 pm to
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 4:51 pm to
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I hope somebody you know beats the shite out of this punk for instigating these dudes on the football team




Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
44905 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 4:54 pm to
assumption. Jimi said "group" so....
Posted by Tmacelroy12
Houston
Member since Aug 2012
5489 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 4:55 pm to
The guy instigates a fight, knocked the frick out, and the person at fault is the party that knocked him out? Shouldn't even be a crime
Posted by lsujunior58
Member since Oct 2011
82 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 4:58 pm to
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Who said anything about forced? You don't know the situation


If by "you don't know the situation," you mean I wasn't in the locker room at the time that it happened, you'd be right. However, when you go to a school in the district and are friends with several players on his team, it's pretty safe to say that the story that is repeated is fairly accurate... and that story has consistently included "forced."
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216143 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 4:59 pm to
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Personally knowing the "victim"



INFO????
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
21568 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 4:59 pm to
Not going to read thru all this, sorry if german, but according to an article in The Advocate today, the D.A's office is going to wait & see what BRPD charges him with before looking at any probation vioilations. But according to the article, he is still very much on probation. The original sentence was 6 mths I believe, so if his probation is revoked he misses at least a mth of the season if not more. And if he's in jail, he'll be in no football shape.
Posted by AintBigButItsPretty
Member since Mar 2011
942 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 5:01 pm to
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The guy instigates a fight, knocked the frick out, and the person at fault is the party that knocked him out? Shouldn't even be a crime

Wait so if you say something that offends someone they have the right to get violent? Beat you unconscious? Why don't we allow them to just kill you?
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 5:06 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216143 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 5:01 pm to
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The guy instigates a fight, knocked the frick out, and the person at fault is the party that knocked him out? Shouldn't even be a crime


NOT if you are JH ... Starting RB for the FACTORY called LSU.............. Like I said.YOU don't get it..............
Posted by LSUstephen17
Houston
Member since Aug 2010
13112 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 5:07 pm to
Hes not going to get jail time. His probation might get revoked, but all that means is he can bond out again. He may get arrested but he can bond out again the next day. When youre on probation, you usually get a slap on the wrist for something like this, unless its a more serious crime. All Im concerned about is what Miles is going to do to him. Im not the least bit worried about the legal system.
Posted by Tmacelroy12
Houston
Member since Aug 2012
5489 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 5:13 pm to
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Wait so if you say something that offends someone they have the right to get violent? Beat you unconscious? Why don't we allow them to just kill you?

Way to completely blow what I said out of proportion. If I told a group of black dudes to go frick off "n****", then I know that I'll get the shite beaten out of me. I don't really care if you're drunk or not, you should have the where with all to know that's just not the thing to do.

I said this guy deserved to get his arse beat, but I wasn't making a blanket statement about every single situation that can come about
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297196 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 5:17 pm to
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Shouldn't even be a crime


It is. WE have to deal with reality, not what we want things to be. There are a lot of people I'd like to beat the shite out of on occasion, but I don't because I value my freedom
Posted by AintBigButItsPretty
Member since Mar 2011
942 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 5:17 pm to
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Way to completely blow what I said out of proportion. If I told a group of black dudes to go frick off "n****", then I know that I'll get the shite beaten out of me. I don't really care if you're drunk or not, you should have the where with all to know that's just not the thing to do.

I said this guy deserved to get his arse beat, but I wasn't making a blanket statement about every single situation that can come about

Oh my bad, I thought it was unreasonable hour on the rant. I was just playing along. So it shouldn't be a crime if a fight is instigated by the use of some words but it should be if other words are used, interesting.
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I don't really care if you're drunk or not, you should have the where with all to know that's just not the thing to do.

I agree but the LSU players should also "have the where with all to know that's just not the thing to do" as well. Especially since they aren't "normal" college kids, like I've said before.
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 5:21 pm
Posted by Tmacelroy12
Houston
Member since Aug 2012
5489 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 5:20 pm to
I guess you can say that you value the freedom that someone throw out racially insensitive words too

I mean, yeah, I respect freedom, but there is a certain extent to every action causes a reaction. And I think karma is a bitch for this guy.

Again, disagree with me however much, I don't like to get into fights unless it's necessary. And again, I'm not saying you should get into a fight every single time a situation arises, because there are other ways to resolve things. But man, from what I've gathered, this guy deserved it

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So it shouldn't be a crime if a fight is instigated by using some words but it should be if other words are used, interesting.

Well, this makes the assumption that all words carry the same effects and meanings for everyone. People get more emotional over some words that others might not get emotional at all. It's just important to try to stay away from words that carry multiple meanings... or those that carry strong meanings..
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 5:27 pm
Posted by Sheetbend
Member since Apr 2013
1267 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 5:31 pm to
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More than likely someone tried to pick a fight with him.


Don't you feel sorry for all those 235 pound footbal players who everyone wants to pick on.
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 5:36 pm to
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It is. WE have to deal with reality, not what we want things to be.


I can't believe the shite I'm reading...no, no, wait... I do believe the shite I'm reading.
Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
22903 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 5:36 pm to
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I respect freedom
Freedom is good. I wonder if anybody ever gave a free thought to...

Yes, conspiracy theory time, kiddies. As I looked at an emerging pattern of LSU thuggery (been happening yearly with different players) and bar fights, I got to wondering: Why now? Why a pattern? Then I thought...

If there was a coach or maybe a particularly rabid booster of a rival SEC school who wanted to sow discord and instability into a particularly dangerous rival team (like LSU), might that coach or booster not find a way to "encourage" ($$) some BR-based local to utter provocative words or in some way pick a bar fight with certain targeted key LSU players? The hope being the local might get the shite kicked out of him, the offending players arrested and maybe suspended or kicked off the LSU team, and the result being a much less solid Tiger team in the fall.

Before chalking this up to insanity, are there not other dirty tricks that have been pulled in sport and politics? And is there not something that is generally known as corporate or industrial espionage, designed to weaken the position of some rival? Why not in high stakes SEC football?

If it is even remotely possible, all the more reason for all Tiger players who do the bar scene to exercise absolute self-control in all provocative situations. It could be more than coincidence.
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 5:37 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297196 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 5:47 pm to
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I said this guy deserved to get his arse beat, but I wasn't making a blanket statement about every single situation that can come about



I'm sympathetic to beating someone's arse in situations like that, don't get me wrong...but when you are on probation, you shouldn't be in a club, and you shouldn't be fighting. Just the way things are.

Usually arrogance makes some people think they are bulletproof and can get away with it but when your leash is already short, you just can't do that stuff. You have to walk away.
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 5:49 pm to
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Usually arrogance makes some people think they are bulletproof and can get away with it but when your leash is already short, you just can't do that stuff. You have to walk away.


but, but, but he started it
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60729 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 5:52 pm to
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Before chalking this up to insanity, are there not other dirty tricks that have been pulled in sport and politics? And is there not something that is generally known as corporate or industrial espionage, designed to weaken the position of some rival? Why not in high stakes SEC football? If it is even remotely possible, all the more reason for all Tiger players who do the bar scene to exercise absolute self-control in all provocative situations. It could be more than coincidence.



first, that is bat shite nutso

Second, this is like the worst possible time to employ such a strategy if you think it has ANY impact.

Third, I cant believe I responded, its a terrible theory
Posted by massiveattack
CharLIT/Chapel Chill
Member since Oct 2010
11582 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 6:01 pm to
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Here's what ive gathered. The "victim" was leaving Reggies and ran into a group of football players, which included Jeremy Hill.

The victim, who was heavily intoxicated, spewed the words "get outta my way N----."

The players said something along the lines of "what did you just say?", to which the victim blurted back "you heard what I said n------"

Hill got involved, punches were throw and numerous players (unknown at this point) jumped in and proceeded to beat the shite out of him.

kicks and punches were landed and some of this is on video, but convienantly started after the racial slurs started.

The "victim" went to the hospital, which I can confirm.

Important to note the "victim" has a past history of getting wasted and starting fights. He is a notorious drunk boxer.



I know jimithing IRL, and we know the same people...this is what I have heard exactly. Shitty situation for all involved
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