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re: Jefferson still impressing (And other Morning Practice Notes)
Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:32 pm to Tigerdew
Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:32 pm to Tigerdew
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Jefferson, Lee and Mettenberger then joined the RBs to work on …(wait for it)… the read option. It’s going to be part of the playbook. The quicker you accept this, the happier your life will be.
As bad as this sounds, the potential for this play is extremely positive if JJ is indeed improved at passing. Think of the RP plays in 2007. There are 3 legit options: Hand off, QB keep and run, QB Keep on the fake and pass.
Teams would bite given JJ's running ability.
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Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:49 pm to Geaux2002
I think everyone agrees that jefferson is a great practice player, the problem is that his practice cannot translated to the game. I am sick and tired of reading about how jefferson has looked good in practice, but when the game starts he struggles with game time decisions and poor quarterback play. Looking back, I think jefferson should have been converted to a running back. I get frustrated because I am a big time LSU fan, but can't stand to see the Tigers lose games they should have won because of poor play.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:52 pm to Slim
I'd venture to say (with factual evidence if requested) that the defense was more responsible for our two losses last year than JJ.
That said, there are certainly games you could say we 'almost' or maybe even 'should've' lost due to JJs poor play.
That said, there are certainly games you could say we 'almost' or maybe even 'should've' lost due to JJs poor play.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 9:25 pm to Fishhead
So your factual evidence wouldnt include the fact that in both losses JJ was a virtual 3 and out machine in the 2nd half of both losses? Obviously the D could have played better but I find it hard to believe you dont consider the fact that they were on the field for long periods in both 2nd halves. Go back and rewatch the games against Auburn they only scored or moved the ball on the drive Ware threw the TD pass and against Arky JJ couldnt get it in the endzone in the 2nd half even when the D set him up on the 9?
Posted on 8/12/11 at 9:36 pm to Rudy40
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JJ couldnt get it in the endzone
you always talk as though JJ is the only player on the field. Like no one else has any affect on whether or not a play or drive is successfull or not when JJ is in the game.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 9:40 pm to Hot Carl
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Are you seriously this intellectually dishonest or are you that stupid that you don't know that sacks count against these stats?
I don't know if it's more funny or sad to watch the extent some are willing to go to push their anti-something agenda.
The hard on some have for certain LSU football players seems to know no bounds.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 9:41 pm to Rudy40
Dude, didn't say you couldn't also provide some facts to back up your cause, but when the D gives up over 400 yds rushing in one game, and let's the opposition score right before the half by tackling their own player instead of the offensive guy...yeah, I got facts too.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 9:57 pm to Fishhead
People act like we have Tom Brady sitting on the bench. JJ played poorly, we get it. JL played poorly. JJ makes a few plays JL doesn't. Simple.
I hope he has improved. Not one swinging dick thinks differently. Not one son of a bitch on this site has seen anything of Mett but highlights.
If we are going to have a great season, we must have an improved JJ. Why is this so fricking hard.
And regarding the read option, only a few time did JJ not read the end correctly.
I hope he has improved. Not one swinging dick thinks differently. Not one son of a bitch on this site has seen anything of Mett but highlights.
If we are going to have a great season, we must have an improved JJ. Why is this so fricking hard.
And regarding the read option, only a few time did JJ not read the end correctly.
This post was edited on 8/12/11 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 8/12/11 at 10:03 pm to Fishhead
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but when the D gives up over 400 yds rushing in one game
Auburn averaged almost 9 yds a carry...that's just sick.
Hell, Old Miss averaged 6+ yds a carry. The only thing saving us in that game was JJ averaging 5 yds a rush and almost 20 yds a pass comp.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 10:16 pm to bmy
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there's nothing wrong with JJ running a short side option. it's not a bad play. i'm not really sure why some fans hate it so much.
There's actually a ton wrong with the way JJ runs the short side option. He doesn't attack the end, forcing him to make a decision. He stretches it out too far and really hampers the pitch man, leaving him hardly any room to work with once he gets the ball. I'm all for the short side option, but let Paul Turner run it. He'll show you how it's SUPPOSED to look.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 10:19 pm to Lonnie4LSU
Dude did you not see in my post where I said the defense could have played better? But conversely do you really not think JJ repeatedly going three and out didnt contribute to the defense being left out on the field and giving up the yardage? LSU did hold Auburn to 24 points and the score was 17 all late in the 4th quarter so while the D could have played better having no 2nd half production from the offense certainly was a huge factor!
As for Arky giving up 31 wasnt great but the offense was certainly given opportunities galore and could only put up 9 points in the 2nd half.
JJ definitely played well versus Ole Miss probably one of only 2 games he did well in both halves A&M being the other so I give him credit there. But Auburn and Arky definitely could have been won with good qb play in the 2nd half. Go rewatch the game film!
As for Arky giving up 31 wasnt great but the offense was certainly given opportunities galore and could only put up 9 points in the 2nd half.
JJ definitely played well versus Ole Miss probably one of only 2 games he did well in both halves A&M being the other so I give him credit there. But Auburn and Arky definitely could have been won with good qb play in the 2nd half. Go rewatch the game film!
Posted on 8/12/11 at 10:22 pm to Rudy40
people seem to be forgetting that EVERYBODY gave up 500 yards to Auburn. They were just too good offensively with Cam.
We did an excellent job of holding them to 24 or whatever it was. Yes, they wore us down, but we weren't beating Cam Newton with JJ without a fumble or blocked punt.
We did an excellent job of holding them to 24 or whatever it was. Yes, they wore us down, but we weren't beating Cam Newton with JJ without a fumble or blocked punt.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 10:23 pm to Hot Carl
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Posted on 8/12/11 at 10:27 pm to Rudy40
Posted on 8/12/11 at 10:33 pm to RobbBobb
Ridley - 249
Ford - 45
Ware - 24
Blue - 20 (injury)
Quit showing your arse. We all know that JJ struggled. So did Lee. It's insanely stupid to say that Jefferson ran to much because he had more carries than the #2-4 RBs combined. He touches the ball every play.
Ford - 45
Ware - 24
Blue - 20 (injury)
Quit showing your arse. We all know that JJ struggled. So did Lee. It's insanely stupid to say that Jefferson ran to much because he had more carries than the #2-4 RBs combined. He touches the ball every play.
This post was edited on 8/12/11 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 8/12/11 at 10:33 pm to Santa Clause
LSU gave up the largest amount of rushing yards in history of LSU football during the Auburn game.
We have to mercifully thank special teams for keeping us in the game.
We have to mercifully thank special teams for keeping us in the game.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 10:36 pm to bmy
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We all know that JJ struggled
eff you, too
You can defend JJ all you want, but if he played every down last yr, LSU has 4+ losses, which makes you a worthless fan to want that.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 10:37 pm to boxcar willie
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you always talk as though JJ is the only player on the field. Like no one else has any affect on whether or not a play or drive is successfull or not when JJ is in the game.
I know boxcar JJ was ranked 100th in the country out of 116 qb's and 11 out of 12 in the SEC wasnt his fault at all all Crowtons. If it wasnt for Crowton JJ would have been a first team ALl American. When he piled up 4 total yards vs McNeese adn 51 versus ULM it was the Oline's fault as JJ was quoted as saying he thought he played fine!
If he doesnt produce this year who will be blamed Krags? Stud since Krags is sick or Crowton just because JJ is used to blaming him?
Posted on 8/12/11 at 10:37 pm to RobbBobb
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You can defend JJ all you want, but if he played every down last yr, LSU has 4+ losses, which makes you a worthless fan to want that.
I want JJ to play when he is doing well. I want Lee to play when Jefferson isn't. I want Mett to play when both of them suck. Posting misleading stats is childish.
You just need to recognize there there is a very vocal minority in our fanbase that dislikes Jefferson because of the color of his skin. It's the same group that wanted Flynn to start over Russell.
This post was edited on 8/12/11 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 8/12/11 at 10:38 pm to bmy
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It's insanely stupid to say that Jefferson ran to much because he had more carries than the #2-4 RBs combined. He touches the ball every play.
So isn't it also insanely stupid to say that he was 2nd in the team in touchdowns and rushing yards since he touches the ball every play?
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