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re: Jefferson - 96th ranked QB in QB Rating out of 116 that qualify
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:19 pm to Antonio Moss
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:19 pm to Antonio Moss
the passing game is a mess. randle is the only receiver that has posed a consistent threat at the position all 3 games. he is the best blocker and has been reliable up to this point. shep is not getting it done as a receiver. i know jj has not been sharp, but shep has had several catchable balls that were dropped in 3 games. tt is not making plays for us. he and jj had a good connection a year ago. especially early on in the season. tt has trouble getting off the line...he needs to be used more as a vertical threat. all and all, we have a qb struggling and not many receiving options to bail him out. you can say all you want about a rivals ranking, but tt is not a top tier receiver in the SEC and certainly shep has to improve.
i am not praising jj by any means. he has improved, but has to do more. however, i would expect more help from our receiving core. we need to consider moving deangelo peterson back to receiver when he becomes healthy.
i am not praising jj by any means. he has improved, but has to do more. however, i would expect more help from our receiving core. we need to consider moving deangelo peterson back to receiver when he becomes healthy.
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Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:22 pm to OLDBEACHCOMBER
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He bought it from Larry Dautrieve.
Are you sure its this offense. Crowton has changed the offense he runs since his La Tech days.
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:22 pm to BT
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look at it this way, he is better than 20 other dudes.
and two of them are on teams LSU has beat...MSU and Vandy...Just saying.
This post was edited on 9/19/10 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:23 pm to easy money
If.. If the receivers caught everything. He throws for 150 yards, at most.
Lsu needs about a 200 ypg average to make the top ten at end of the year.
Lsu needs about a 200 ypg average to make the top ten at end of the year.
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:28 pm to thunderbird1100
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These people blaming solely Crowton and not putting any blame on Jefferson baffle my mind. REALLY believe we havent had a single WR go downfield the last 2 games? REALLY?
Apparently you have a problem with the truth, and you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that JJ can’t get his production up unless Crowton calls the passing plays. I mean he completed 10 of 16 last night, with 2 RS dropped passes, another pass to RS that was batted down, but probably would have scored, and then we had the fade to TT. That accounts for all but two passes. Could either of those two other passes got JJ’s numbers up to 250 yards? It’s obvious, when pass plays should have been called called, Crowton ran that stupid RS end around play until it loss yards on two consecutive plays. Then he started running up the middle.
Also, in the Vanderbilt game, with out an exception every time it was 2nd and long because we either lost yards on first down or were penalized, Crowton called running plays up the middle for no gain or a very short gain, leaving 3rd and Crowton. It never failed. I swear some of you guys must be nut-rubbing buddies with Crowton or something.
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I'm not happy with Crowton as much as the next person but people putting ZERO blame on Jefferson aren't watching the games. You really think our offense wouldn't improve with a Top 15/20 QB?
I’m watching the games and re-watching the games. In any event, I blame JJ for having a bad game against Vanderbilt, but after re-watching that game two additional times, that game wasn’t as bad as it was after I watched it the first time, as JJ was clearly pressured and hit as he was releasing the ball on several occasions causing him to under throw the ball. Now on the end zone throw that got intercepted, he wasn’t pressured at all on that one. However, Lee can’t get his production up unless Crowton decides to get his finger out of his arse and do his job. Indeed, if he is too incompetent to pull the trigger, then let someone else call the plays.
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:30 pm to Antonio Moss
IMO we are at the time that we as fans, coaches, and JJ's teamate should expect more from him.
What we've done on offense since he's been starting is enough to beat teams we always should but not against the teams that are more challenging.
I expect from what we've seen so far to have a very similar season to last year.
We'll beat who we should and loose to teams that are as imposing as we are on defense...ie FLA/bama/maybe Au.
Blame it on anything or anyone you like, all Im saying that what we are currently doing on offense isnt going to take us to atlanta first week of december.
And that's our goal every year right?
What we've done on offense since he's been starting is enough to beat teams we always should but not against the teams that are more challenging.
I expect from what we've seen so far to have a very similar season to last year.
We'll beat who we should and loose to teams that are as imposing as we are on defense...ie FLA/bama/maybe Au.
Blame it on anything or anyone you like, all Im saying that what we are currently doing on offense isnt going to take us to atlanta first week of december.
And that's our goal every year right?
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:31 pm to OLDBEACHCOMBER
LSU needs a balanced attack. It isn't like Bama that can get by with a below average passing game (last year.)
For LSU to challenge it will need more production from the QB position.
For LSU to challenge it will need more production from the QB position.
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:34 pm to Rattler
We have one coming to Tiger Stadium next week.
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:37 pm to pdxlsufan
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Funny, I don't remember the talk radio airwaves here in Oregon filled with Crowton haters.
LSU Fans Will Suffer With Gary Crowton
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:40 pm to Paulu
Interesting stat:
LSU had only 429 of potential offense last night - meaning that if they would have scored a TD on every drive, LSU would have only accumulated 429 yards of offense. We accumulated 264 total yards. That's 61.5% of our potential yardage.
Arkansas, whose widely believed to have one of the best offenses in the country, had 901 potential offensive yards yesterday. They actually had 433 yards of offense. That's 48.1% of their potential yardage.
Good field position, great defensive play, and grind it out running game equals less offensive yardage.
LSU had only 429 of potential offense last night - meaning that if they would have scored a TD on every drive, LSU would have only accumulated 429 yards of offense. We accumulated 264 total yards. That's 61.5% of our potential yardage.
Arkansas, whose widely believed to have one of the best offenses in the country, had 901 potential offensive yards yesterday. They actually had 433 yards of offense. That's 48.1% of their potential yardage.
Good field position, great defensive play, and grind it out running game equals less offensive yardage.
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:40 pm to Dead Fish
Crowton/Miles schemes are far from ideal, but the two QB's have to step it up. Some of you actually believe JJ is perfect and all the problems are beyond his control. He isn't as good as some of you think, nor as bad as some make him out to be. Regardless, LSU will need better production from the position.
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Some of you actually believe JJ is perfect and all the problems are beyond his control.
I certainly don't believe that. I do believe that no QB will thrive in Crowton's offense. History supports my position.
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
good post by moss here. i talked about the same thing after the unc game. we didn't have to do much on offense. we controlled that game and the only time we were in danger in that game, the offense went down the field and scored a td.
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:43 pm to Antonio Moss
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LSU had only 429 of potential offense last night - meaning that if they would have scored a TD on every drive, LSU would have only accumulated 429 yards of offense. We accumulated 264 total yards. That's 61.5% of our potential yardage.
Arkansas, whose widely believed to have one of the best offenses in the country, had 901 potential offensive yards yesterday. They actually had 433 yards of offense. That's 48.1% of their potential yardage.
does this include the yardage the ball traveled on FGs?
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:44 pm to bmy
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does this include the yardage the ball traveled on FGs?
Which number?
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:44 pm to Antonio Moss
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I do believe that no QB will thrive in Crowton's offense. History supports my position.
Who was the QB in 2007?
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:45 pm to Antonio Moss
It was said on ESPNU last night that we have simplified our offense for JJ. Why do we have to simplify an offense in someone's junior year? Shouldn't this be the year we crank it up a notch?
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:46 pm to JustSmokin
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Who was the QB in 2007?
Not Crowton's offense.
He didn't install his option route offense until 2008. This has been widely covered on this website.
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:46 pm to aroussel3Tigers
why would anyone simplify anything for anyone?
Pretty obvious answer if you'll sit on it for a minute.
Pretty obvious answer if you'll sit on it for a minute.
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:47 pm to Antonio Moss
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He didn't install his option route offense until 2008. This has been widely covered on this website.
Well I guess that makes it true, huh?
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