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re: Jarell Martin rumored to have a 1st round promise from Memphis

Posted on 6/22/15 at 2:25 pm to
Posted by bigsteve36
Prairieville
Member since Sep 2013
80 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 2:25 pm to
he will be out of the nba in 3 years. why draft him
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115563 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 2:25 pm to
Whatta douche
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:07 pm to
A scout for the grizzlies was at a lot of the games last year.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71195 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 4:02 pm to
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I think they are realizing they need to get quicker and more athletic to keep up with the direction the NBA is going now.

as a long time Grizz fan, we need all the perimeter jump shooters we can get. As much as I like Martin as an LSU fan, I'd be upset if we drafted a big in the 1st

ETA: unless for some reason we can't resign Marc Gasol (I doubt he signs elsewhere)
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 4:05 pm
Posted by Russell2Bowe
Memphis
Member since Jan 2010
1054 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 4:07 pm to
Same. I'd love to have an LSU guy on the team but we need a shooter if we can get one.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
33983 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 4:07 pm to
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Only thing I can think of is so the player has incentive to stop working out for other teams, thus giving your competition less access to information?


That's the supposed incentive for the team giving a "draft promise". Team A hopefully prevents Team B from getting a up close look at a guy they really want. For the player, he doesn't have to work out anymore thereby minimizing the chance the chance of bad info getting out or worse, an injury like poor Michael Qualls suffered

To me, I think this is nothing more than agent puffery. "Hey rest of the league. My guy is will definitely be gone by #( ). So if YOU want him, you better do whatever needs to be done to take him before that spot."
Posted by LMfan
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 6:23 pm to
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As an LSU and Grizz fan I will say this kind of makes sense.

Grizzlies really need two things:

1) Shooting
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2) A backup 4 with some athleticism.

If Grizzlies decide they can't get 1 at 25, 2 would make a lot of sense.


There is also some increasing credence around the league to the idea that you can improve a jump shot with coaching and practice but you can't teach size/athleticism.

Many analytically savvy teams are opting for length over all else, believing that mechanics and repetition are all it takes to improve shooting. Obviously every player is different but Martin definitely falls into the group of uber athletic kids who might just be a few mechanical tweaks away from becoming a real dangerous all around threat.
This post was edited on 6/23/15 at 6:51 am
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
46135 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 6:26 pm to
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"Hey rest of the league. My guy is will definitely be gone by #( ). So if YOU want him, you better do whatever needs to be done to take him before that spot."



The ole Dion Waiters trick.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:41 pm to
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Good for him, guaranteed contract
Only lottery picks get guaranteed contracts.
Posted by TigerDM
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1765 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:16 pm to
That guarantees Martin nothing. If there is a player that Memphis likes but assumes
will not be available slides, than they would pick him over Martin. Then you have no ide
how the other teams rate him.

Posted by LMfan
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 6:54 am to
TigerRag reporting that Mickey also has a promise from a team drafting between 20-25.

Kinda odd that both have gotten a supposed promise in the same range. This close to the draft it's really hard to take anything too seriously but I guess we'll find out in two days what's legit and what's BS.

Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 7:07 am to
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Only lottery picks get guaranteed contracts.



It's all first round picks
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32794 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 5:37 pm to
Kosta Koufos is almost certainly gone (unless Gasol leaves), so the Grizz do need another big to replace him. Jon Leuer did not play well and Jarnell Stokes looks good, but saw very limited time as a rookie. With Jordan Adams looking like a guy who will be able to contribute more scoring on the wing, Martin might be a better fit than some of you think.

Considering that Dave Joerger seems just as reluctant to play rookies as Lionel Hollins, I wouldn't expect whoever the Grizz draft to play huge minutes in year one. If they are going to get shooting help, it will likely come from free agency or a trade, because only a vet will be given much of an opportunity.

Here is another thing to consider. Zach Randolph still has a few years in him, but he is aging. The staff speaks highly of Jarnell Stokes, but he looks more like a solid back PF than a replacement for an All-Star caliber player. To me, Martin's athleticism makes him worth a good look. He has more upside than Stokes, and more versatility.

The Grizz have traded away their 2016 and 2018 first round picks and they have an aging team, so they are looking for a player that fits where they want to be after this core group begins to move on. So, even though he may not seem like the perfect fit right now, he could be down the road. If John Hollinger signs off, then count me in.
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